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| Which country will win 2002 FIFA World Cup? |
| Argentina (Group F) |
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17% |
[ 5 ] |
| Belgium (Group H) |
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3% |
[ 1 ] |
| Brazil (Group C) |
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20% |
[ 6 ] |
| Cameroon (Group E) |
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3% |
[ 1 ] |
| France (Group A) |
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17% |
[ 5 ] |
| Italy (Group G) |
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6% |
[ 2 ] |
| Portugal (Group D) |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| Spain (Group B) |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| Other ? |
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31% |
[ 9 ] |
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| Total Votes : 29 |
Starfox
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Joined: 07 Jun 2002
Posts: 45
Location: France |
Yeah!! what a game! Go Korea go!! I believe they could even win the WC! That would be so great to witness a new era of football, the rising of new nations. It would mean more excitement in international competition.
Sorry Yog, but dont worry. Italiz win the prize of best acting school of shirts pulling and diving 
Italy got lucky on the penalty. I would have given a double-penalty. 2 korean players pushed simultaneously and the italians kept arguing.
And this show (once again) that a game is over when the referee say it's over. As long as there are some seconds to be played a goal can be scored (Eire against Germany, today for Korea, and 2 years ago in the final of Euro 2000 with France scoring against Italy)
Too bad for Japan tho, they didnt make it today 
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Tue Jun 18, 2002 2:41 pm |
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Yog Sothoth
The All in One
Joined: 01 May 2002
Posts: 1086
Location: Between Space and Time |
I'm a member of the NonFlamers' guild... i have to breath deeply and relax... relax... relax... no sorry i can't...
ROUND OF 16
Forth day match
Italy 1 - South Korea 1
Vieri '22 - Seol '88
(after the regolar times there was the OverTime)
AHN '117
In Yellow the team that passes the turn
In Green the team that goes home
Comment: StarFox, are you sure you watch the same match?  I saw a perfect game of the Korea which was playinf in 12 (guess who is the 12th... let me tell a hint, he's from Ecuador...) Simply incredible! I'm not arguing the penalty (he was right) NOR the second yellow of Totti (diving is an art for him!) but for all the others little things called faults... strange but true, there wasn't ANY replays of ALL the contrasts made by the Korean player... even when Coco broke his eyebrow, the replay started at the end of the Korean-attack... Tommasi scored another (the fifht!!!!!) regolar goal! (and when it's too much it's too much!) that could be the g.g. for Italy...
Well i'll not be here talking of this more... we lost and the Korea goes on, congratulation to the Korean players... i'll put this team always winner from now on
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Tue Jun 18, 2002 3:00 pm |
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Myrthos
Spoiler of All Fun
Joined: 07 Jul 2001
Posts: 1926
Location: Holland |
Yay!! "Hiddink for President"
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Tue Jun 18, 2002 3:11 pm |
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Lintra
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Joined: 23 Apr 2002
Posts: 9448
Location: Bermuda, the triangle place with SANDY BEACHES |
@Yog - You don't *write* like you broke anything! So I'd say you are taking this very, VERY well!!
Hmmm, Cameroon is gone, Sweden is gone, and Italy is gone. NOW who the heck do I cheer for? I know! Germany! (I picked them as my super bet  ).
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Tue Jun 18, 2002 3:12 pm |
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Yog Sothoth
The All in One
Joined: 01 May 2002
Posts: 1086
Location: Between Space and Time |
If all the referee will leave playing such today South Korea will win... (no i'm not angry... who said it?) btw: i've not said the the fault on Zambrotta (hitting the knee from behind and making him leave the ground) was a red-xxx-rated one...
OK, i'll stop talking, sorry...
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Tue Jun 18, 2002 3:19 pm |
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stealth
Protector of the Realm
Joined: 23 Mar 2002
Posts: 261
Location: Valhalla |
Crap. Now my Super Bet is out.
Well, Yog I said it before and I’ll say it again; Italy should have worked harder for a second goal instead of concentrating on defending their 1-0 lead. It’s just not working anymore like it did in the early 90’s.
Another thing: Italy have been VERY unlucky (even cheated?) by poor refereeing. It’s a shame that FIFA has such a stupid rule that won’t allow more than one referee from each country. It’s the biggest football tournament and we have referees from the likes of Guatemala (Do they even have a professional league?).
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Tue Jun 18, 2002 6:15 pm |
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Starfox
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 07 Jun 2002
Posts: 45
Location: France |
I dont think the referee was pro-korean and no one on french TV thought so. They all said he did a great game. The italian guy who got injured on his eyebrow wasnt injured by a korean but an italian. It was clearly shown on another camera angle.
For the discarded italian goal. That was a very tough call but decision has to be taken live and immediately.
I think Vieri was very unlucky. I could feel he wouldnt score but he kept missing big opportunity (like trezeguet during this WC). it was simply a day out for him.
Like stealth I agree that italy could have won iif they had attacked more. Just before the end of the regular time they missed a huge opportunity when that italian player (I forget his name) just "had" to push the ball inside but the ball skyrocketed instead.
On the other hand, the korean penalty wasnt so greatly shot. Had they scored it might have been even tougher for Italy, being led 1-0 2 minuted after the beginning of the game.
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Tue Jun 18, 2002 6:30 pm |
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stealth
Protector of the Realm
Joined: 23 Mar 2002
Posts: 261
Location: Valhalla |
My above statements about the referees were not solely based on the Korea game but on the tournament as a whole. Just wanted to clear that up (if anyone was confused ?  )
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Tue Jun 18, 2002 8:24 pm |
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Yog Sothoth
The All in One
Joined: 01 May 2002
Posts: 1086
Location: Between Space and Time |
quote:
Originally posted by stealth
Well, Yog I said it before and I’ll say it again; Italy should have worked harder for a second goal instead of concentrating on defending their 1-0 lead. It’s just not working anymore like it did in the early 90’s.
Agree! Never said the contrary! But it's difficoult to play againd 12 players...
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Originally posted by stealth
Another thing: Italy have been VERY unlucky (even cheated?) by poor refereeing. It’s a shame that FIFA has such a stupid rule that won’t allow more than one referee from each country. It’s the biggest football tournament and we have referees from the likes of Guatemala (Do they even have a professional league?).
yes they have, and next WC they will be the strongest national team in the Universe!  (Sorry for anyone from Guatemala...)
and now another quotated person:
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Originally posted by StarFox
I dont think the referee was pro-korean and no one on french TV thought so. They all said he did a great game.
Here he created a hell! Hope he has not the program to take a vacation here... 
quote:
Originally posted by StarFox
The italian guy who got injured on his eyebrow wasnt injured by a korean but an italian. It was clearly shown on another camera angle.
Yes i know, i never said it was a Korean, it was injured by Gattuso... that doesn't change the fact that the replay was a *little* bit late... just when the attack of Korean players ended...
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Originally posted by StarFox
For the discarded italian goal. That was a very tough call but decision has to be taken live and immediately.
And it was taken WRONG for the FIFTH time in FOUR matches... if you think it's normal i believe you...
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Originally posted by StarFox
I think Vieri was very unlucky. I could feel he wouldnt score but he kept missing big opportunity (like trezeguet during this WC). it was simply a day out for him.
Trezeguet started smiling the last time when hit the cross-bar... the ball seemed hounted, it simply didn't want to enter... i was relly sorry in that moment.
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Originally posted by StarFox
Like stealth I agree that italy could have won if they had attacked more. Just before the end of the regular time they missed a huge opportunity when that italian player (I forget his name) just "had" to push the ball inside but the ball skyrocketed instead.
like i said before: i agree!
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Originally posted by StarFox
On the other hand, the korean penalty wasnt so greatly shot. Had they scored it might have been even tougher for Italy, being led 1-0 2 minuted after the beginning of the game.
and if the linesman gave the 2 goals with Croatia we will never played the match against Korea... if, if, if...
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Tue Jun 18, 2002 10:10 pm |
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Beo
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Joined: 06 May 2002
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If it was one incident, you could say that it was poor luck but how many times unfair refereeing were cited in the tournments with Italy? It was almost like the referees were out to get them.
Who is doing PR for the Italian National Football team? Have the Italians considered sending fruit baskets to the International Football referees' Association (I made that up )? |
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Tue Jun 18, 2002 11:14 pm |
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Yog Sothoth
The All in One
Joined: 01 May 2002
Posts: 1086
Location: Between Space and Time |
quote:
Originally posted by Beo
If it was one incident, you could say that it was poor luck but how many times unfair refereeing were cited in the tournments with Italy? It was almost like the referees were out to get them.
Who is doing PR for the Italian National Football team? Have the Italians considered sending fruit baskets to the International Football referees' Association (I made that up )?
Beo you don't know what's happening here... Probably Carraro (the head of our soccer organization) will resign, Trapattoni (obvious! it's not all fault of the referees) will resign too... and Collina (the best world referee, Italian and now in Korea/Japan) will be forced to come home for a protest...
Here we are going to have a soccer revolution! hehe i really want to know what will happen!
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Wed Jun 19, 2002 7:53 am |
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Starfox
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Joined: 07 Jun 2002
Posts: 45
Location: France |
Yog: let's all meet in 2006 for the next WC with an extra strong Italian and French teams (and maybe some video allowed for referring
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Wed Jun 19, 2002 9:46 am |
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Yog Sothoth
The All in One
Joined: 01 May 2002
Posts: 1086
Location: Between Space and Time |
quote:
Originally posted by Starfox
Yog: let's all meet in 2006 for the next WC with an extra strong Italian and French teams (and maybe some video allowed for referring
agree agree agree agree and again agree!!!!!! And i want to see also the Dutch team! I like very much the "orange"
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Wed Jun 19, 2002 11:31 am |
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Gothmog
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Joined: 12 Apr 2002
Posts: 88
Location: Wales |
My condolances Yog Sothoth.
For an England supporter to say Italy were hard done by must mean the decisions were dodgy!!
P.S. Bring on Brazil |
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Wed Jun 19, 2002 1:04 pm |
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Yog Sothoth
The All in One
Joined: 01 May 2002
Posts: 1086
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quote:
Originally posted by Gothmog
My condolances Yog Sothoth.
For an England supporter to say Italy were hard done by must mean the decisions were dodgy!!
P.S. Bring on Brazil
Thanks Gothmog... my last hope is to see England in the final match... i think they could beat Brazil... GO England GO!
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