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Originally posted by Anonymous
Kotor II was unfinished crap and got near perfect scores from everyone. Only two type of people complain about review scores in the 70's: pirates and queers. I don't see no ship parked in the driveway so go help your mommy with the dishes

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Originally posted by Pagan

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Originally posted by Anonymous
Kotor II was unfinished crap and got near perfect scores from everyone. Only two type of people complain about review scores in the 70's: pirates and queers. I don't see no ship parked in the driveway so go help your mommy with the dishes

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Ok sorry... based on what you're saying I'll change my opinion instantly of course. Are you just a fanboy or someone working for Heuristic Park?

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Originally posted by Anonymous
Kotor II was unfinished crap and got near perfect scores from everyone. Only two type of people complain about review scores in the 70's: pirates and queers. I don't see no ship parked in the driveway so go help your mommy with the dishes

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Ok sorry... based on what you're saying I'll change my opinion instantly of course. Are you just a fanboy or someone working for Heuristic Park?

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Your wit burned me like fire. I like rpgs so that makes it impossible for me to be a fanboy of an action game. So I guess I work for Heuristic Park. Since I take it your not a pirate I hope helping your mommy with the dishes went well.

If you can tear yourself away from sticking your junk in your boyfriends pooper for a minute or two let me explain why what you say is stupid. You see, a lot of crap-ass games come out by big devs that I'm sure a sospisticated pooper-poker like you buys, loves, and defends. Everyone is so busy slobbing over developers like Biowares knob that they fail to realise that smaller devs, being creative, don't have to pop out a Bioware or Blizzard clone to be a good game


Then a small developer makes a game with a few flaws and of course needs more time in development (since the have 1/10th the budget, 1/10th the resorces, and 1/10th the clout with publishers). But all in all it is a great game that accomplishes what it set out to do. But it can't get a fair shake since little ass-tyrants like you, who only care about how super duper the graphics are only want games that conform to one popular criterian, causing creativity to stagnate and making sure only the big boys have a chance of producing a hit. And their hits are about as creative and new as the wheel. The same games are churned out with worse and simplified mechanics but prettier graphics, only to appease shallow and superficial buttpluggers such as yourself. The big get bigger, and the little guys get attacked for walking off the beaten path.

No one can tell me that Kotor 1 and 2, Jade Empire, and even Bard's Tale for Christ's sake, deserve perfect or near perfect scores and a game that is just as good if not better just for being creative and different doesn't even deserve a 7.6, and anyone that could possibly rate it as a 7.6 is a stupid moron who didn't play the game. The devlopers of this game should burn in the fiery depths of hell. How dare they make a game that isn't exactly like all the rest?

The fact is Kotor 2 was a lot less finished than this game, check and see if that hurt its reviews. If you want to talk about games needing patches, i guess you haven't played rpgs in the last 8 years. Unless you stuck to such quality titles as DS. Did daggerfall badly need a patch on release? Did Fallout 2? Or a billion other games? The bottom line is you are shallow, superficial, and closed minded. If you bought Dungeon Lords expecting Diablo 3 you're a fool.

Why don't you tell everyone what you would rate DL, then compare it to like games that you would rank with a high score and what your basing your not-to-be-contradicted statement off of and why.

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Originally posted by ionstormsucks
This game sucks. The fact that other games were also full of bugs at the time they were released is neither a justification nor an excuse. It just shows that this is becoming more and more a bad habit. Dungeon Lords just has a lot of bugs and from a technical point of view it's fairly outdated.
I too don't like the 7.6 it got from GameZone. But more than that I don't like the written review which gives the impression that Dungeon Lords is a good game. Let's face it: It's a mediocre game at best.

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Originally posted by Anonymous
But yet somehow stripped down games with no features at all such as Bard's Tale and Jade Empire get near perfect scores without anyone batting an eye. I'd rather have a real RPG, but short of that I will take a feature heavy game such as DL over those other pos's.

People complain that DL had features removed such as character look customization. Neither JE or BT had those to behhin with. Neither of those have MP. Neither of those even have character creation (well, JE does and you can change 5 things (woooooooooooo) the 3 attributes and the 2 styles).

I think everyone can handle the notion that the amount of variability impacts the length of development of a game and the chances of bugs. DL has more variable in every aspect of it than the last 5 good selling "rpgs" had combined. How could JE and BT not get the little they had in their games right? If they didn't the 1.2 features those games had right, I don't know, they might have gotten a review in the high 80's or something almost as horrible.

You're a whinny pansy-ass fool. Calling me a fanboy is very inacurate as I don't like DL. I don't like action games. Just the lockpicking feature of DL is enough to give me a brain hemorage and the combat is difficult. The combat might not be diffuclt for others, like Gothic's combat is easy for some people, but for me DL is a very difficult game and I usually want to smash my computer after playing. But if my choices are the curent rpg trend of games like kotor and nwn, with combat so easy and sophmoric I don't even think it can be called combat. Or stupid-twitch combat that presents me with a real challenge, such as Gothic and DL--I'll take Gothic and DL. (well, not Gothics because it is insane, I have to play in Marvin mode just to be able to do anything and that takes all the challenge out of it).

But your still an idiot and superficial, and a big sissy girl. And about as much of a Pagan as a priest. Pagans aren't mainstream, you are completely mainstream.

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Originally posted by ionstormsucks
This game sucks. The fact that other games were also full of bugs at the time they were released is neither a justification nor an excuse. It just shows that this is becoming more and more a bad habit. Dungeon Lords just has a lot of bugs and from a technical point of view it's fairly outdated.
I too don't like the 7.6 it got from GameZone. But more than that I don't like the written review which gives the impression that Dungeon Lords is a good game. Let's face it: It's a mediocre game at best.

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From a technical point of view this game includes every piece of technology it needs. If you guys are graphics whores why play rpgs? Why not stick to fps's? That genre is much more inclined to being pretty and technologically advanced. What piece of technology would have made the game achieve its gameplay goals? MSWord could include a lot more technology but seeing as it doesn't need them to do what it is supposed to, it doesn't need them.

Lets look at great games that came ouit with outdated technolgy: no need to list them as every rpg has and this is an rpg site.

Now lets look at this statement: "Let's face it: It's a mediocre game at best." Compaired to what and why? Where are you coming from? Whats not a mediocre game? HL2, Doom 3, Jade Empire, Fable, Bard's Tale, Morrowind? What?

Whats your ranking criteria? Is it features? Graphics? Mechanics? Options? Customization? Different Resolutions to choose from? What is it? What are you basing this statement on? technology? Did DL need an advanced physics engine to acomplish its goals? What vital technologies did it need?

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