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Vidder
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 05 Aug 2002
Posts: 46
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| Access Violation in Gothic after SBLIVE Update and Patching |
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Ok: i played Gothic for some time and all works ok. Then i thought: maybe i should patch the game. ok i patch it to 1.08k.
Then i updated my sblive value to the newest drivers.
From now on gothic always crashes after a couple of minutes WITH player activity.
When i do nothing, it won´t crash.
It seems to happen mostly in the old camp. Sometimes i can wander around in the wilderness and it works for some more minutes...
Very strange...
Does someone knows what i can do? I already tried to reinstall gothic and to play it without patches AND i deinstalled my SBLive Drivers.. nothing helps.
My System specs: P3/733, 256RAM, Geforce2, SBlive value
I put the AccessViolation ErrorMsg at the end of this message.
Thanks for your help in advance.
Vidder
======================================= UNHANDLED EXCEPTION OCCURED ======================================================
======================================= CRASH INFOS: =====================================================================
GOTHIC 1.08k, Parser Version: 50
User: Administrator, CPUType: 586, Mem: 256 MB total, 21 MB free
Startup Options:
=============================================== CALLSTACK : ==============================================================
001B:005B6323 (0x00000002 0x00000000 0x0129F24C 0x00000000) GOTHIC.EXE, zCProgMeshProto::PackStaticVertexBuffers()+227 byte(s), D:\dev\gothic\current_work\ZenGin\_Dieter\zProgMeshProto.cpp, line 425+39 byte(s)
001B:005B6814 (0x0129F24C 0x005ECCDA 0x0129F24C 0x007F56EC) GOTHIC.EXE, zCProgMeshProto::Load()+836 byte(s), D:\dev\gothic\current_work\ZenGin\_Dieter\zProgMeshProto.cpp, line 495
001B:005B647A (0x0129F24C 0x007F56EC 0x1ACFB174 0x1ACFB5BC) GOTHIC.EXE, zCProgMeshProto::LoadVisualVirtual()+10 byte(s), D:\dev\gothic\current_work\ZenGin\_Dieter\zProgMeshProto.cpp, line 453+10 byte(s)
001B:005ECCDA (0x0129F24C 0x1ACFB360 0x1ACFB174 0x1ACFB5BC) GOTHIC.EXE, zCVisual::LoadVisual()+234 byte(s), D:\dev\gothic\current_work\ZenGin\_Dieter\zVob.cpp, line 2776+14 byte(s)
001B:005E9874 (0x1ACFB360 0x00000007 0x03390614 0x006BFC9C) GOTHIC.EXE, zCVob::SetVisual()+260 byte(s), D:\dev\gothic\current_work\ZenGin\_Dieter\zVob.cpp, line 1794+10 byte(s)001B:0068A660 (0x0000A46F 0x03390614 0x0129F498 0x007F56EC) GOTHIC.EXE, oCItem::CreateVisual()+48 byte(s), D:\dev\gothic\current_work\Gothic\_Ulf\oItem.cpp, line 321+34 byte(s)
001B:0068A660 (0x0000A46F 0x03390614 0x0129F498 0x007F56EC) GOTHIC.EXE, oCItem::CreateVisual()+48 byte(s), D:\dev\gothic\current_work\Gothic\_Ulf\oItem.cpp, line 321+34 byte(s)
001B:006BFC9C (0x03390614 0x03390614 0x0129F4D0 0x00000000) GOTHIC.EXE, oCNpc::Unarchive()+3884 byte(s), D:\dev\gothic\current_work\Gothic\_Ulf\oNPC.cpp, line 9181
001B:00523B4D (0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000) GOTHIC.EXE, zCArchiverGeneric::ReadObject()+2029 byte(s), D:\dev\gothic\current_work\ZenGin\_Dieter\zArchiverGeneric.cpp, line 1274 |
Mon Aug 05, 2002 7:12 pm |
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Gorath
Mostly Harmless
Joined: 03 Sep 2001
Posts: 6327
Location: NRW, Germany |
You could try to install the Mod Player Kit. It updates Gothic´s sound system.
You should also try to set your sound provider to DirectSound HW and disable reverb.
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Mon Aug 05, 2002 8:24 pm |
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Vidder
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 05 Aug 2002
Posts: 46
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ive done that already. wont work.
another suggestion? |
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Mon Aug 05, 2002 9:11 pm |
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[PB]Nico
Keeper of the Bugs
Joined: 15 Jul 2001
Posts: 237
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Try to reduce the hardware acceleration for the sound system (in DxDiag).
- nico
ps: does the game run correctly if started with sound disabled (in GothicStarter)? |
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Mon Aug 05, 2002 9:18 pm |
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Xelis
High Emperor
Joined: 24 Jul 2002
Posts: 523
Location: Seattle, Washington |
Try getting the latest drivers for your sound card... 
If all else fails, reinstall Gothic...  |
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Mon Aug 05, 2002 9:21 pm |
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Vidder
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 05 Aug 2002
Posts: 46
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thanks for the quick answers
@nicoDE: when i disable sound and music it seeems to work.
dont tell me i have to play without sound ;) |
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Mon Aug 05, 2002 9:45 pm |
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[PB]Nico
Keeper of the Bugs
Joined: 15 Jul 2001
Posts: 237
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Your problem is somewhat suspicious =)
Because the crash dump above clearly says it happend inside the renderer while processing 3D code ... usually this should not happen if the problem raises from sound only.
Therefore I tend to think something goes wrong with DirectX too (due to the changed hardware).
However, it's really easy (as developer) to point to DirectX or driver developers - but I have no other idea yet =)
Just give it a try and reinstall DirectX to be sure. There are known problems especially with SBLive - so you should try to reduce the hardware acceleration (sound only), which solved the problem on some systems.
- nico
ps: you might mail me your zipped [gothic]/system/gothic.RPT |
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Mon Aug 05, 2002 10:00 pm |
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Vidder
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 05 Aug 2002
Posts: 46
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hey! reinstalling directx 8.1 worked!
i can play again, even with full acceleration.
strange problem...
thanks nico! =)
hopefully i can overcome this annoying break and enjoy the game again
a gamers heart is so fragile :P |
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Mon Aug 05, 2002 10:27 pm |
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[PB]Nico
Keeper of the Bugs
Joined: 15 Jul 2001
Posts: 237
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You are welcome.
- nico |
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Mon Aug 05, 2002 11:48 pm |
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BlackMiG
Village Dweller
Joined: 21 Aug 2002
Posts: 1
Location: Spain |
| More problems with Gothic |
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Hello, The last weekend i bought gothic, here in Spain, it's the international version with subtitles in Spanish. Well, The game was installed with no problem, both CDs, and then, I played 4 or 5 hours, then the game crashed to deskotp (sounds familiar,uh?), since then, the game crashed everytime i tried to play it, but after a lot of time (2 3 or 4 hours).
Surfing in the gothic website, I found a collection of patches, including a Kyro2 fix (as I have one this really wonder me, 'cause I didn't have any graphic problems with the game), and 3 updates (1.07c, 1.08h & k) as my version was the 1.08j and all in the page was german (wich I didn't understand a lot) i didn't download anything (Is the Int'l version patched to something or kyro-fixed?????).
Of course, my SBLive drivers are the last, for win XP, downloaded in july (the 50mb pack).
Well, then here I found the answer (I thought) to my problem, and as before was said, i downloaded the 1.08k player kit, installed it... and the game crashes as I start to play, 3 or 4 minutes after or so. Then I restarted Gothic WITHOUT sound and music... voilá... 3 hours playin' and nothing strange happened... unbelievable... then I suppose (as it was said here) I have to reinstall DirectX to fix it... BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have win XP, and i've heard somewhere that the directX 8 are part of the OS, so you CAN'T reinstall it... it's true??
I don't want the BSOD, so i prefer to ask before reinstall directX... and i prefer that versus a fantastic system reinstall...
Lots of thanks, and if this is answered in other post, please, tell me wich one is, so I can read it.
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Wed Aug 21, 2002 6:28 pm |
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Gorath
Mostly Harmless
Joined: 03 Sep 2001
Posts: 6327
Location: NRW, Germany |
| Re: More problems with Gothic |
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quote:
Originally posted by BlackMiG
Surfing in the gothic website, I found a collection of patches, including a Kyro2 fix (as I have one this really wonder me, 'cause I didn't have any graphic problems with the game), and 3 updates (1.07c, 1.08h & k) as my version was the 1.08j and all in the page was german (wich I didn't understand a lot) i didn't download anything (Is the Int'l version patched to something or kyro-fixed?????).
The Kyro fix was 1.08i. Patch 1.08k was only meant to fix startup problems with GeForce3 and newer Radeon cards.
The Mod Player Kit updates the sound system used in Gothic.
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Of course, my SBLive drivers are the last, for win XP, downloaded in july (the 50mb pack).
Well, then here I found the answer (I thought) to my problem, and as before was said, i downloaded the 1.08k player kit, installed it... and the game crashes as I start to play, 3 or 4 minutes after or so. Then I restarted Gothic WITHOUT sound and music... voilá... 3 hours playin' and nothing strange happened... unbelievable... then I suppose (as it was said here) I have to reinstall DirectX to fix it... BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have win XP, and i've heard somewhere that the directX 8 are part of the OS, so you CAN'T reinstall it... it's true??
I don´t have XP. AFAIK DirectX can´t be uninstalled, but you can install newer versions over older versions.
Please don´t take this for granted. It´s your system you´re playing with. 
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