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Diskboy
Village Dweller
Joined: 12 Nov 2002
Posts: 14
Location: London, UK |
| Error when coming back to Newland from Vally of the Mines!! |
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Hi, first of all I just want to say that Gothic 2 rules. At first I thought it was a bit poo compared to Gothic 1 (my favourite game ever made), but I was wrong, Gothic 2 rules!!
Anyway, the problem, I have finished with the mines area (where old city used to be, the castle etc etc), and I'm off back to the new city to report to Hagen about the proof.
Only thing is, whenever I'm entering a way to get back, it goes to the 'loading' screen yet before it has finished loading , when exiting valley of the mines, it crashes. It loads to about 90% - to the letter N, then craches back to the desktop!!
I've tried rebooting the pc, shuting down, uninstalling, everything! This is making me want to cry, I'm sooo hooked on the game and can't wait any longer to find out whats wrong.
I don't know what it could be. My system specs are:
AMD Athlon XP 2100+
512mb DDR ram
Radeon 9000 pro 128MB ddr
80gb HD
I run the game @ 1024x768/32 with NO glitches!!
Please help someone. 
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 9:50 am |
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Daedalus
High Emperor
Joined: 04 Jan 2002
Posts: 2516
Location: Estonia |
did u try both places where u can enter the new world ?
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
one place is right there were orcs are and another leads out from a cave.
if u tryed both of them then try some earlyer made save game what is still in new world and try to enter the old world and after that again new world if that works then ur last save was probably with some error |
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 1:48 pm |
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Diskboy
Village Dweller
Joined: 12 Nov 2002
Posts: 14
Location: London, UK |
Yup, I've tried both ways of getting back, and I've tried loading like 6 to 7 different save games!!
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Tue Jul 08, 2003 3:19 pm |
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Diskboy
Village Dweller
Joined: 12 Nov 2002
Posts: 14
Location: London, UK |
Hello? Is there no one else who can help me or offer advice?
It's HELL to get to a certain point in a game, be obsessed with it all day from the second you wake until you sleep, then not beable to play it anymore.
Please, anyone? 
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Wed Jul 09, 2003 6:59 pm |
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Gorath
Mostly Harmless
Joined: 03 Sep 2001
Posts: 6327
Location: NRW, Germany |
There is not much we can do on a fan site.
You should open a thread on the official board. The problem you describe also happened in the German version. Then it was the intended reaction if the game thought you´re not using an original. So it´s possible you have a copy protection problem.
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Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:26 pm |
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Diskboy
Village Dweller
Joined: 12 Nov 2002
Posts: 14
Location: London, UK |
I've never had any copy protection errors with the game, it's an original bought from amazon.com - although if I don't get this fixed it won't be for much longer as I'm going to get a refund 
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Thu Jul 10, 2003 1:28 am |
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elkston
High Emperor
Joined: 21 Sep 2002
Posts: 691
Location: North Carolina, USA |
If it happens in several save games all from varying points in the game, then maybe it is something in your inventory. This is just a wild guess, but I am trying to think of things, bugged or not, that may permanently effect the state of the game and your inventory is one of them. Perhaps some combination of the things you have doesn't jive right with the OldWorld to NewWorld transfer sequence.
One test you might do to confirm this is to load a game from the mine valley, go all the way up to where you are about to exit, and just strip yourself clean. Carry nothing at all. Then walk through and see if it loads.
(In case you didn't know, you can drop items by selecting them in your inventory and hitting the ALT key).
The next test if this one doesn't work is to do the exact same thing, but from a save in the newworld. Strip just as you are about to exit the new world, enter the old world, then try to enter the new world again.
If you still get the crash then it is not the inventory, sorry. If it is OK though,then you have to start using trial and error to see what item in your backpack is causing the problem ...
It could also be the case that something about the newworld is messed up and whenever you enter it, causes the crash. I'm not sure how this would be fixed without starting over from a point *before* you entered the mine valley (except, of course, patching up your savegame which requires inside knowledge only PB has at this point).
Sorry about your problems though, I know what its like to hit game stopping bugs when your'e having fun. Sometimes you just have to suck it up and start over (if you like the game enough). But please try out my suggestion before giving up.
EDIT:
Another thing to consider, and I'm not implying at all that you DID do this, is whether or not you used Marvin mode (i.e. cheated) at any point in the game and saved after it. Even though the cheat may have seemed to have work at the time, you never know what long term effects it may have on the game state . Again, I'm not saying you used Marvin at all, just saying that it may introduce subtle errors in save games.
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Thu Jul 10, 2003 10:57 am |
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Daedalus
High Emperor
Joined: 04 Jan 2002
Posts: 2516
Location: Estonia |
hehehe marvin is indeed bad one of my friends had pretty many errors after he used it  |
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Thu Jul 10, 2003 2:30 pm |
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Diskboy
Village Dweller
Joined: 12 Nov 2002
Posts: 14
Location: London, UK |
Nope never used marvin, if I did, then the same thing would happen as happened in Gothic 2 - I'd keep using it and spoil the game!!
It turns out multiple files got corrupt, and I had to start again from the begining. Thanks for all your help, especialy a user called "Athas" who PM'd me help and what to do!!
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Fri Jul 11, 2003 1:54 am |
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m()V1n5H@3()w
Village Dweller
Joined: 27 Jul 2003
Posts: 10
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The inventory doesnt have to do with it(although i thought this was the problem at first),i`ve checked it!!!(passed almost naked through pass and crashed again)...The only solution is to load a previous save game and play again...Then it wont crash again...So save often and in different save slots to enjoy this miracle called gothic!!!
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Wed Jul 30, 2003 12:00 pm |
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Diplo
Village Dweller
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Posts: 2
Location: UK |
The problem DiskBoy is having is exactly the same one I have encountered. I'm playing as a Paladin and have just finished killing the dragons in the OldWorld (Chp4?) and everytime I attempt to go back to Khorinis via the Valley Of Mines Pass the game freezes up on the loading screen. Like DiskBoy says, it gets 90% of the way through loading the area and then just freezes (Windows reports that Gothic.exe is 'not responding').
I have tried everything I can to fix this :
- Tried reloading old save games, but any that were saved in this chapter all exhibit the same problem. However, if I load a really old save when I first came through the Pass I can get back fine.
- Tried going back via both enterance to pass.
- Tried running in Window mode, tried disabling sound, music, cut-scenes and turning all eye-candy off.
- Tried using marvin mode to teleport to a different waypoint (but you can't teleport outside the 'world' you are in)
- Tried using the 'story helper' to complete all quests in chapter, in case it was a problem with one of these.
None of these worked, so I'm in the incredibly frustrating position of having to go back to a really, really old save game and loose dozens of hours of play I really don't know if I can re-do all that so I might just have to give up, which will be terrible as I love Gothic 2 to bits!
System Specs :
Windows XP Pro
Athlon 1.1Ghz
384MB RAM
Nvidia GeForce ti4400 (latest drivers)
No probs with DxDiag
If anyone has any idea how to fix this I would be eternally grateful. Thanks. |
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Fri Aug 01, 2003 1:28 pm |
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Daedalus
High Emperor
Joined: 04 Jan 2002
Posts: 2516
Location: Estonia |
u probably found another bug again just take an old save game again :\ |
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Sat Aug 02, 2003 1:55 pm |
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Gorath
Mostly Harmless
Joined: 03 Sep 2001
Posts: 6327
Location: NRW, Germany |
You can puzzle files from another save in the same chapter into your current savegame. Maybe you can replace the corrupted file.
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Sat Aug 02, 2003 6:55 pm |
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Diplo
Village Dweller
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Posts: 2
Location: UK |
Well, in the end I just found an old save game before Chapter 4 and have now finally completed it (again!) and this time I can leave the Valley! Thank Innos for that!!  |
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Sun Aug 03, 2003 11:45 am |
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Daedalus
High Emperor
Joined: 04 Jan 2002
Posts: 2516
Location: Estonia |
congrats but i still think many ppl will see that bug again :\ it would be cool if this would be fixed in the patch |
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Sun Aug 03, 2003 12:58 pm |
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