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Daedalus
High Emperor
Joined: 04 Jan 2002
Posts: 2516
Location: Estonia |
True Diablo II was on pretty many TVs advertaised and magazines if only Gothic would be advertized then many many MANY ppl would buy it thats for sure ppl but again the money problems allways ruin good plans |
Tue Jul 23, 2002 11:54 pm |
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Gorath
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Joined: 03 Sep 2001
Posts: 6327
Location: NRW, Germany |
quote:
Originally posted by CarnalSalvation
Compare that to the over 1 million copies of Diablo II sold in the first TWO WEEKS.
Funny. 
Diablo 2:
1. developer: Blizzard, the undisputed no.1 in the business
2. primary market: North America
3. advertising: very, very much
4. coverage in mags, etc.: enormous
5. genre: action ==> mainstream
6. 3rd part of the series (incl. add-on).
Gothic:
1. some unknown company from Germany
2. the German speaking countries
3. close to nothing
4. not much
5. rpg ==> niche market
6. 1st game in series
I have to slightly correct my number. It was North America, not the USA. 90,000 units are a huge success. The only foreign game I´m sure sold more units is Serious Sam - The Second Encounter. Any other successful foreign game over there?
If you take into account that most of the hundreds of games sell less than 10,000 copies in the first 12 months then the given number in 6-7 months is simply excellent.
FYI, only approximately 5 games per year sell more than 500,000 units in the USA in one year.
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Daedalus
High Emperor
Joined: 04 Jan 2002
Posts: 2516
Location: Estonia |
well ppl remember the game Max Payne. Finnish Deverloper made it and offcorse i call it as a "unknown" shjit but still the game was sold out like hell cos many advertizes were made  so i think Gothic would be sold good to when they advertize it in every place |
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Wed Jul 24, 2002 3:01 pm |
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TheLonePaladin
Mighty Warrior
Joined: 27 Feb 2002
Posts: 1808
Location: San Francisco, CA |
quote:
Originally posted by Gorath
Any other successful foreign game over there?
final fantasy
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Wed Jul 24, 2002 5:17 pm |
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Gorath
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Joined: 03 Sep 2001
Posts: 6327
Location: NRW, Germany |
How many units sold Max Payne? I don´t doubt it was more successful than Gothic (what makes it 2 out of at least 100 foreign games  ), but was it really such a huge hit? And please remember we are comparing 6 month numbers for Gothic with yearly numbers for older games.
Final Fantasy? I´m only gonna believe this if you give me some sales numbers. Are you sure more than only a few 10,000 play this?
Of course Gothic could have been even more successful with more advertising. But to make PR you need a publisher who has the ressources to make PR. And a publisher who bought the necessary shelf space to fill the channel because customers expect to find an advertised product.
Maybe some of you have unrealistic expectations what sales numbers are possible for pc games. A rule of thumb is that you need ~100,000 sold through full prize units to reach the break even. (Of course productions with a gigantic budget (WC3) or expensive licenses (EA Sports) need more, "recycled" games need less).
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Dreaga07
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Joined: 20 Jan 2002
Posts: 169
Location: Vancouver, WA |
quote:
It's not
"I'm going to go to the store and find a really cool new game"
it's
"The magazine said this game was cool, so I'm going to get it"
actually, when i found gothic, i was just in the store looking for a good rpg fix, i saw the box, said "that looks friggin cool" and bought it, turned out i was right, although the box promised non linear gameplay with multiple endings....liars. but gothic was and still is a great game, gothic 2 will be better.
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Xelis
High Emperor
Joined: 24 Jul 2002
Posts: 523
Location: Seattle, Washington |
Yup, well, according to the designers, each guild will have is own adventures...  but I guess we wont find out until this christmas... |
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Thu Jul 25, 2002 4:12 am |
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Daedalus
High Emperor
Joined: 04 Jan 2002
Posts: 2516
Location: Estonia |
hehehe just pe patient  and well i think Max Payne was pretty successiful it got damn many awards and shjit and offcorse more buyers but then again they had a nice publisher what i didnt notice also
But still Gothic II will be more successiful even much more successiful it was on E3 many ppl seen the first part and played maybe by theyr friends so there will be alot more buyers this time |
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Thu Jul 25, 2002 8:18 am |
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TheLonePaladin
Mighty Warrior
Joined: 27 Feb 2002
Posts: 1808
Location: San Francisco, CA |
i don't know how many units of FF X were sold....but i know all the critics loved it, i know they had lots of advertisement (tv, magazine, movie ) and they had the loyal final fantasy-ers buying too. so that must be a lot....in all likelihood more than 10000
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Thu Jul 25, 2002 8:30 pm |
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Rawis
Gorthaur
Joined: 01 Apr 2002
Posts: 1861
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quote:
Originally posted by Dreaga07
Mages aren't cowardly. They could roast your armored but into cooked paladin before you even got your sword out. ....or put you to sleep.....or my personal favorite.....kill ya with some spell....then raise you as an undead servant....
Ha, the spells would turn back at the caster when it hits the Paladins armor.  |
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Fri Jul 26, 2002 3:09 pm |
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Vilgefortz the mage
Noble Knight
Joined: 24 Jul 2002
Posts: 203
Location: Khorinis Mage Guild |
Daedalus - Gothic II will be the game of year 2003!!!!! I can feel it in the water... I can see it in the earth... I can smell it in the air. (THE LORD OF THE RING........... La LAAAA La LAAA, LA La LA  )
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Fri Jul 26, 2002 7:24 pm |
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Daedalus
High Emperor
Joined: 04 Jan 2002
Posts: 2516
Location: Estonia |
bwhahaha you are very true m8 it will be the game of the year 2003  i know it also |
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Fri Jul 26, 2002 10:14 pm |
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Vilgefortz the mage
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Joined: 24 Jul 2002
Posts: 203
Location: Khorinis Mage Guild |
And may the force be with Piranha Bytes
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Gorath
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Amen.
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