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Windwalking
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Joined: 05 Jul 2002
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| The Compiled Top RPGs of All Time (voted for by you!) |
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Hey all, I’ve just completed the compilation of everyone’s Top Ten RPG list; it sure took a lot longer than I thought it would 
I compiled it as follows:
1st place votes get 10 points, 2nd place votes get 9... 10th place votes get 1.
If someone put two games in one place, I averaged them (2 games for #1, each game gets 9.5 points, #2 gets 8 points). I made sure that no one got to “spend” more than 55 points. If there were more than 10 games listed and ranked, I just ignored all of the ones after #10. If there were 10 or fewer games unranked, I gave them each 5.5 points. If there were more than 10 games unranked, I gave them each 55/N points, which accounts for some of the funky decimals you see here
I included everyone from the “Top Ten RPGs of all time” thread, including guests (most of them seemed legit). The only people I omitted were Himitsu, who had multiple lists, and a German guest with funky German names for games that I didn’t understand. There were a total of 61 voters, and 137 games mentioned.
The 1st number is the rank, then the game, the 1st number after the game is the number of points the game got, and the 2nd number after the game is the number of first-place votes the game got (I only counted exclusive first place votes, not ties).
And the winner is [drumroll please]:
Baldur’s Gate II!
BTW, sorry I couldn’t make the presentation prettier, I don’t know how to insert tables...
RANK GAME TOTAL No. of 1st Place Votes
1 Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn 199.1 4
2 Gothic 175.1 5
3 Planescape: Torment 150.6 5
4 Fallout 143.5 3
5 Fallout II 119 2
6 Ultima VII 115.6 2
7 Baldur's Gate 115.1 1
8 Ultima: Underworld 98.6 0
9 Might & Magic VI 94.7 2
10 Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall 85.6 2
11 Deux Ex 72.1 1
12 Betrayal at Krondor 63 1
13 Wizardry VIII 62 2
14 Arcanum: Of Steamworks & Magick Obscura 61.5 1
15 Ultima: Underworld II 61.1 1
16 Might & Magic VII 59.2 1
17 Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind 54.5 0
18 Ultima 4: Quest of the Avatar 49 0
19 Bard's Tale 45.8333333333 0
20 Lands of Lore 44.5 1
21 Icewind Dale 41 0
22 Might & Magic III: The Isles of Terra 40.5 0
23 Pool of Radiance (C64) 39.5 0
24 Dungeon Siege 38 0
25 Diablo II 38 0
26 Wasteland 37.5 1
27 Thief 36 0
28 Final Fantasy VII 35.1 1
29 Final Fantasy VI (3 in US) 34.5 0
30 Diablo 34 0
31 Might & Magic V 32.7 1
32 Bard's Tale II 30.8333333333 0
33 Ultima V 30.5 0
34 Ultima Online 29 0
35 Bard's Tale III 28.8333333333 0
36 Ultima VI 28 1
37 Wizardry VII: Crusaders of the Dark Savant 27 0
38 Realms of Arkania II: Star Trail 27 1
39 Everquest 26 1
40 Darklands 26 1
41 Neverwinter Nights 26 2
42 Might & Magic II 25.5 0
43 Vampire: Masquerade 24 0
44 Might & Magic IV 22.7 0
45 Ultima I 21.5 1
46 Final Fantasy IV (2 in US) 20.5 0
47 Eye of the Beholder II 20 0
48 Realms of Arkania: Blade of Destiny 20 0
49 Final Fantasy VIII 19.6 0
50 Final Fantasy I 19 1
51 System Shock II 19 0
52 Wizardry I 18.5 1
53 System Shock 17.5 1
54 Summoner 17 1
55 Ultima IX 17 0
56 Eye of the Beholder 16 0
57 Might & Magic 16 0
58 Final Fantasy V 16 1
59 Wizardry 6: Bane of the Cosmic Forge 16 1
60 Wizards & Warriors 15 0
61 Ultima II 14.5 0
62 Anachronox 14 1
63 Thief II 14 0
64 Realms of Arkania 3: Shadows over Riva 13.5 0
65 Curse of Azure Bonds 13.5 0
66 Dungeon Master 13 0
67 Final Fantasy IX 12 1
68 Might & Magic VIII 11.7 0
69 Elder Scrolls I: Arena 11.6 0
70 Secret of Mana 11 0
71 Chrono Trigger 10 0
72 Legacy of the Ancients (C64) 10 1
73 Might & Magic IX 10 0
74 Rogue (IBM 1982!) 10 1
75 Starflight 10 1
76 Menzoberranzen 9.5 0
77 Soulbringer 9 0
78 The Sims 9 0
79 Final Fantasy II 9 0
80 Final Fantasy X 9 0
81 Anvil of Dawn 9 0
82 Chaos Strikes Back 9 0
83 Stonekeep 8.5 0
84 Final Fantasy III 8 0
85 Return to Krondor 8 0
86 Jagged Alliance II 8 0
87 Amberstar 8 0
88 Ultima III 8 0
89 Dragon Wars 8 0
90 Ravenloft: Stone Prophet 7.5 0
91 The Second Coming 7 0
92 The Legend of Zelda (NES) 7 0
93 Quest for Glory 6.2 0
94 Fallout Tactics 6 0
95 Siege of Avalon 6 0
96 Lands of Lore II 6 0
97 Evil Islands 6 0
98 Dark Age of Camelot 6 0
99 Nethack 6 0
100 Wizardry II 5.5 0
101 2400 A.D. 5.5 0
102 Pools of Darkness 5.5 0
103 Xenogears 5.5 0
104 Revenant 5 0
105 Nox 5 0
106 The Summoning 5 0
107 Dungeon Keeper 5 0
108 Final Fantasy Tactics 5 0
109 Lands of Lore III 4.5 0
110 Phantasie III (C64) 4 0
111 Milon's Secret Castle (NES) 4 0
112 Darkstone 4 0
113 Knightmare (Amiga) 4 0
114 Moria (or Dungeons of Moria) 4 0
115 Quest for Glory V 3.2 0
116 Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 3 0
117 Ultima VIII 3 0
118 Champions of Krynn (C64) 3 0
119 Dark Sun 2 0
120 Times of Lore 2 0
121 Heretic II 2 0
122 Kohan 2 0
123 Betrayal at Antaria 2 0
124 Star Control II 1 0
125 Gorasul 1 0
126 Dragonriders: Chronicles of Pern 1 0
127 WarWizard 1 0
128 Omikron 1 0
129 Ravenloft: Strahd's Possesion 1 0
130 Shenmue 1 0
131 ZangbrandTK 1 0
132 Worlds of Ultima: Martian Dreams 1 0
133 Quest for Glory III 0.2 0
134 Quest for Glory IV 0.2 0
135 Quest for Glory II 0.2 0
136 Cybermage 0 0
137 Ishar (Amiga) 0 0
Whew!
- Wind
PS Someone hook me with Betrayal at Krondor; I'd never even heard of it before  |
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Vorador
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All i have to say is WOW!!! That is VERYimpressive!! i've never seen anyone do something like this and i am shocked to see it done. I am surprised BG2 won--i thought Morrowind or Gothic would. But your method seemed very accurate, and you did very good research.
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Sat Aug 17, 2002 3:27 am |
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Windwalking
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Joined: 05 Jul 2002
Posts: 227
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Oh yeah, I almost forgot, here are all the people whose votes were counted. I don't know how much can fit in one message, so I'm posting this in a reply:
BoaBoa Chronic Danicek Draszmar dteowner DungeonKeeper Ekim Emech foniks munkee Garrett Ghaaroth Gig Gish GoAt Gomez the Mad goofy goldfish Gorath Gothmog Guest Guest #2 Guest #3 Guest #4 Guest #5 Guest #6 Guest #7 Happenstance (logged in as Guest) Hedek Hexy HiddenX Jay Jaz Joey Nipps Kissoon (logged in as Guest) Lintra Maelstrom Dragon (logged in as Guest) Maggot Malifax Mattias Kreku Max Killen mDrop Michael C Moonslash Moriendor Namirrha Nazgul Neolite Provis Rawis Rendelius Ryder Seth Shadow_Fyre Snome Stiletto sweepah The Hurricane TheRaven Val Vilgefortz the mage Vorador Windwalking Yog Sothoth |
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Sat Aug 17, 2002 3:29 am |
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Provis
High Emperor
Joined: 01 Jul 2002
Posts: 872
Location: Middle of the Forest |
I can't say I agree with some of them but, good work.
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Sat Aug 17, 2002 3:58 am |
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The Hurricane
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Joined: 01 Jun 2002
Posts: 299
Location: The Sword Coast |
Sweet. Can't believe BG2 stole the 1st place spot. Good work. 
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Sat Aug 17, 2002 4:15 am |
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dteowner
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I'm really surprised with the high score for some games and the low ranks of others. Regardless, it's a very informative list.
Thanks to Wind for taking the time and effort. I imagine this will spawn some interesting conversation.
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Sat Aug 17, 2002 6:31 am |
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Windwalking
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Joined: 05 Jul 2002
Posts: 227
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quote:
Originally posted by dteowner
I'm really surprised with the high score for some games and the low ranks of others. Regardless, it's a very informative list.
Thanks to Wind for taking the time and effort. I imagine this will spawn some interesting conversation.
You know, I was really surprised that Diablo II got 25th on the list, considering how much abuse it tends to take here ("you might as well be playing Diablo" ).
Thief, despite not being considered a true RPG by most, was 27th with 36 points, and was almost triple the score of Thief II (14 pts).
Other series comparisons:
Ultima 7 conquers Brittania with 115.6 points and a 8th place finish, over Ultima Underworld (98.6) and Underworld II (61.1)
Wizardry 8 (13th place, 62 points) demolishes the other Wizardry games, with Wiz 7 coming the closest (37th place, 27 pts). Wizardry 3-5 did not get a single point!
Fallout and Fallout II are right next to each other in the standings, probably because most people rank them together or one just over the other. But Fallout I still takes the cake by 24.5 points.
Daggerfall won the Elder Scrolls contest, finishing a strong 10th (85.6 pts) over Morrowind (17th, 54.5 points).
Might & Magic 6 was the mightiest and magickiest, finishing in 9th with 94.7 points, almost twice as many as M&M 7 (16th, 59.2)
The most surprising results were for games I'd never heard of: Betrayal at Krondor (12th, 63 pts) and Lands of Lore (20th, 44.5). Are they still around and worth playing?
The top 10 games are all Interplay or from famous series (M&M, Ultima, Elder Scrolls), with the notable exception of Gothic (which is spawning a series). Is this due to the fact that sequels mean that the original game was really good, or is it just that people remember games more fondly if they've played multiple games in a set (thus developing more attachment as they play it more and more)?
Oh well, it's fun to look at the trends... I honestly thought that Fallout would win this thing
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Sat Aug 17, 2002 7:16 am |
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sweepah
Village Dweller
Joined: 12 Aug 2002
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Heh thats odd I was thoroughly convinced fallout would win this thing and gothic would be second, interesting, i havent seen much bg groupies here.
Anyway to answer your question: Betrayal at Krondor is based on the Feist books (actually from what I recollect he even made a seperate plot for the game) and is available as abandonware/freeware at the sierra website under downloads (10 mb or so) http://www.sierra.com. Lands of Lore is the game that got me hooked on rpg, pretty good story and nice atmosphere for that time should be available in some bargain bins. It also has been released a while ago if i remember correctly under the Virgin White Label series. It's succesors never came even close imho. |
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Sat Aug 17, 2002 8:33 am |
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Val
Risen From Ashes
Joined: 18 Feb 2002
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Wow!  That is a surprise. I didn't expect BG2 to make the top spot. I thought it would only make the the top five. Did you double check you're results? That seems almost unbelievable.
Then again, looking through the thread BG2 did make the top five of a lot of people's lists. I guess those numbers add up quickly, although I didn't think they'd add up to that amount.
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Sat Aug 17, 2002 9:36 am |
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Windwalking
Fearless Paladin
Joined: 05 Jul 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by Val
Wow! That is a surprise. I didn't expect BG2 to make the top spot. I thought it would only make the the top five. Did you double check you're results? That seems almost unbelievable.
Then again, looking through the thread BG2 did make the top five of a lot of people's lists. I guess those numbers add up quickly, although I didn't think they'd add up to that amount.
Well I double-checked right after entering each person's vote, or most of them anyway. So I don't really wanna check them again, unless there's a really good reason
About BG2, it actually got fewer first place votes (4) than Gothic or Planescape Torment (5 apiece). But as you said, BG2 made a LOT of lists, and boy did those numbers add up. People may be slightly less fanatic about it, but most people seem to respect its quality...
That or Minsc just threatened to sick Boo on 'em... 
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Sat Aug 17, 2002 11:22 am |
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dteowner
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Joined: 21 Mar 2002
Posts: 7570
Location: Third Hero of Erathia |
I bet the M&M series would have done better if MM9 hadn't been released...
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Sat Aug 17, 2002 5:11 pm |
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Jaz
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Joined: 20 Jan 2002
Posts: 9708
Location: RPGDot |
Nice, nice, nice, even if I don't think much of Iso3D. Good job Windwalking!
 I think only one ISO game made my top ten list  , which was Jagged Alliance II...
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Sun Aug 18, 2002 11:07 am |
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Rawis
Gorthaur
Joined: 01 Apr 2002
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Great work Windwalking! |
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Sun Aug 18, 2002 11:49 am |
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Remus
Overgrown Cat
Joined: 03 Jul 2002
Posts: 1657
Location: Fish bowl |
It is surprises indeed. I thought it will be Gothic win the race. But still, i am happy BG2 won, it's very decent game.
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Vilgefortz the mage
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Joined: 24 Jul 2002
Posts: 203
Location: Khorinis Mage Guild |
Yeah!! BG won Gothic is second and a high 14th for Arcanum great!!!
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