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Mad55
Village Dweller
Joined: 09 Dec 2002
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Hey folks!
Okay, you want information, you get information. 
First bug I encountered was message boxes disappeared suddenly. This happened in the beginning of the game, after a reload it never happend again.
Then performance is - strange. I have a high end machine and it's well configured, but there are freezes and low frame rates in certain areas (e.g. stone circle where you will find "Innos Eye"). That shouldn't happen with an GeForce 4 TI 4600 in a P4 2,4 GHz and 512 MB RD-RAM! Okay, it isn't so serious I'm not able to play, it's just annoying. Or does I except too much if my machine is three times better as the recommended and I want to play with every detail without any performance problems? 
Then I get stuck in the old minearea. I fell between the old goods-lift and wasn't able to move anymore. So I had to reload an earlier savegame. Collisions test algorithm isn't the hit at every time.  (
I'm in the 4th chapter now and haven't discovered everything of the game yet. Generally spoken, there aren't really serious bugs, expect the Radeon 7xxx problems concerning inventory. But these bugs I've experienced so far are irritating.
Other players in the German forums report of some more script bugs and other problems. A main problem is the new copy protection. It degreades installation sometimes to a lottery. I tried five times to install before I could play.
But - to be fair - if you finally get in the game, you forget everything around you and time is - how Albert Einstein said - RELATIVE! 
Okay, enough words - I have to rejoin the world of Gothic 2!
P.S.: If you can improve my English feel free to send me a mail: mad55@gmx.net |
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pauk
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 04 Dec 2002
Posts: 38
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| Re: Some Bugs I have found |
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I tried the german demo version last weekend. It crashed once (when I walked to the rusted axe near 2 goblins in the beginning, the game just went back to desktop). This was the only crash in a few hours of gameplay.
With tb1,4 and gf3 (old version) there was serious performance problems at 1024x768 resolution. At 800x600x32 resolution it runs smoothly. |
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Mon Dec 16, 2002 8:49 pm |
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Lysander
Protector of the Realm
Joined: 09 Apr 2002
Posts: 265
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quote:
Originally posted by Brolli999999
Already answerd these questions do some research.... 
That's a very poor response.
The fact is, the English-speaking market is much, much larger than the German-speaking market, especially when you consider that way more Germans also speak English than Americans/Britons/Australians/Canadians speak German. English is the closest thing we have today to a global language.
It seems to me to be a poor business decision to delay the English version so long, especially since PB is on shaky financial ground.
And the fact that there isn't even an English demo several months after the full German release--not even subtitles-- is kind of a slap in the face. |
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Guybrush Threepwood
High Emperor
Joined: 19 Jun 2002
Posts: 500
Location: Oklahoma |
I've always wondered why some companies insist on still making games in their location's language.....the only company that comes to mind that could've done that but didn't was Funcom(sp?) which is based in Norway I think....I just find it to be pointless since English is the most widely used language and haven't found any arguements that have disproven this fact. So why do companies waste pointless money making the game in question in their own language? bah...anyway its late and this prolly doesn't go in this discussion folder/board/whatever.
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Lysander
Protector of the Realm
Joined: 09 Apr 2002
Posts: 265
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quote:
Originally posted by Guybrush Threepwood
I've always wondered why some companies insist on still making games in their location's language.....the only company that comes to mind that could've done that but didn't was Funcom(sp?) which is based in Norway I think....I just find it to be pointless since English is the most widely used language and haven't found any arguements that have disproven this fact. So why do companies waste pointless money making the game in question in their own language? bah...anyway its late and this prolly doesn't go in this discussion folder/board/whatever.
A lot of Japanese companies do that. Konami, for example, with the Silent Hill series. |
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Thu Jan 16, 2003 1:51 pm |
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NidPuterGuy
Fearless Paladin
Joined: 08 Jan 2003
Posts: 237
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| It could just be production issues or funding or testing? |
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Maybe it is taking while to make all the CD's, boxes and manuals? Perhaps somone is waiting to get paid and that is holding it up? Maybe they know that the English market is larger than the German market so they are letting the Germans be the final release candidate testers! That would be my best guess. Release the game to a smaller pool of players. Let them beat on it for a while giving you free testing. Then patch it and re-release it to the larger English speaking market. Yep, that's what I"m thinking. |
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Sun Jan 19, 2003 6:05 am |
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oozle
Keeper of the Gates
Joined: 18 Dec 2001
Posts: 112
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quote:
Originally posted by Lysander
quote:
Originally posted by Guybrush Threepwood
I've always wondered why some companies insist on still making games in their location's language.....the only company that comes to mind that could've done that but didn't was Funcom(sp?) which is based in Norway I think....I just find it to be pointless since English is the most widely used language and haven't found any arguements that have disproven this fact. So why do companies waste pointless money making the game in question in their own language? bah...anyway its late and this prolly doesn't go in this discussion folder/board/whatever.
A lot of Japanese companies do that. Konami, for example, with the Silent Hill series.
One reason for doing this is to test the game before releasing it to a wider audience. Ie, the german release could be either a commercial beta so as to spot any faults before releasing to english market. Alternatively it could be use to gauge initial market response to the product to determine pricing strategy for the english market etc. Its not as commercially dumb on second thought |
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Sun Jan 19, 2003 6:37 am |
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Gorath
Mostly Harmless
Joined: 03 Sep 2001
Posts: 6327
Location: NRW, Germany |
Of course itīs not that dumb.
I wonder why everybody here thinks the English market <i>for Gothic II</i> is bigger than the German market. It was number 1 in D, A, CH and still sells very well here. Of course all the other countries will add up to a serious amount of units, but not within a few weeks.
Primary market comes first, rest of the world later. Only EA is big enough to release world wide at the same time.
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Irf
High Emperor
Joined: 18 Jul 2002
Posts: 1032
Location: England |
Perhaps they released the german version first because the developers are german? Not everything has to be about how much money it makes...if you enjoy doing something the first people you want to share it with are those who are closest to you! |
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Sun Jan 19, 2003 6:10 pm |
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Greb Jnnayr
Village Leader
Joined: 08 Dec 2001
Posts: 75
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because of money problems on Jowoods part. |
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Mon Jan 20, 2003 12:07 am |
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Lysander
Protector of the Realm
Joined: 09 Apr 2002
Posts: 265
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| Re: It could just be production issues or funding or testing |
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quote:
Originally posted by NidPuterGuy
Maybe they know that the English market is larger than the German market so they are letting the Germans be the final release candidate testers! That would be my best guess. Release the game to a smaller pool of players. Let them beat on it for a while giving you free testing. Then patch it and re-release it to the larger English speaking market. Yep, that's what I"m thinking.
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Originally posted by oozle
One reason for doing this is to test the game before releasing it to a wider audience.
Unlikely. Reviews indicate minimal bugginess. And that still shouldn't stop them from releasing a demo. |
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Mon Jan 20, 2003 4:46 am |
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Lysander
Protector of the Realm
Joined: 09 Apr 2002
Posts: 265
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quote:
Originally posted by Greb Jnnayr
because of money problems on Jowoods part.
Shouldn't stop them from releasing a demo. Or, god forbid, getting a little creative with distribution. |
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Mon Jan 20, 2003 4:54 am |
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oozle
Keeper of the Gates
Joined: 18 Dec 2001
Posts: 112
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Whatever it is it's not doing the company any good.
Lack of demo, lack of explanation and lackof confirmation of release date is turning off many potential customers.
Especially given the other quality releases that are expected in first qtr 2003 |
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Mon Jan 20, 2003 6:10 am |
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darkmage
City Guard
Joined: 08 Mar 2002
Posts: 132
Location: mordor |
hey, i went on amazon and the website said they wouldnt get it until april!!! maybey because they dont get it when stores do or whatever but all i know is that if i have to wait until fricken april someone from jowood or pb is gonna get whacked  
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Val
Risen From Ashes
Joined: 18 Feb 2002
Posts: 14724
Location: Utah, USA |
I doubt threats of violence will get you the game any faster.
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