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Catastrophe! IMPORTANT NEWS - PLEASE READ CAREFULLY!!
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Catastrophe! IMPORTANT NEWS - PLEASE READ CAREFULLY!!
   

In italian forums the word is spreading like wildfire from about 2 days, but i feel that International forums are more deserving information, because the danger is Worldwide, and worldwide MUST be the uproar.
Please read the news in the following links and talk about this, mail friends, make EVERYONE knows what is awaiting us in a year or so...

http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2873149,00.html
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1107-939817.html
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/rja14/tcpa-faq.html
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25956.html


...spread the word...
Post Fri Jul 05, 2002 1:24 pm
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I've been reading about it for one - two weeks. Pretty scary stuff. Interesting article was posted on vanshardware few days ago, but I haven't been able to find it recently.

Also if you want to be scared more , search and read about
CBDTPA (formerly SSSCA) - somehow similar. I'm not sure, but I probably read somewhere, that Intel and M$ have spoken against it.
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,51274-2,00.html
http://www.vanshardware.com/articles/2002/03/020325_CBDTPA/020325_CBDTPA.htm

Another interesting piece is DMCA.
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Post Fri Jul 05, 2002 2:18 pm
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I can't beleive it! TCPA is not the only freedom-crushing plan ahead!! Also America, whose symbol is freedom itself is in grave peril!

Something has to be done, but what??
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Post Fri Jul 05, 2002 2:40 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by Entropy
...America, whose symbol is freedom itself...

You should read up on Kissinger, especially during the Nixon administration.

Anyways, I see this Palladium business as a joke. The "wired" link that soltys posted is something that scared the living bejesus out of me though. So much so that I erased it from my mind because the alternatives are just too terrifying. I remember the days of the Communications Decency Act in the US. And I recall what it did for the Internet. This is about billion times worse. The end of any sort of freedom, no matter how fake and shallow.

Be afraid, be very very afraid.
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Post Fri Jul 05, 2002 4:20 pm
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Let them watch. Let them listen. I could care less.
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Post Fri Jul 05, 2002 4:34 pm
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Time will tell.
Microsoft is just crap anyway
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Post Fri Jul 05, 2002 4:35 pm
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quote:
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Microsoft is just crap anyway


it is just too bad that the "crap" basically has control over every computer (save macs) out there. but, i guess that makes bill a very happy and wealthy man. too bad he is just a man...unlike what he would like to believe he is.
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Post Fri Jul 05, 2002 5:07 pm
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Neverthless, most of us (all ?) use thier soft everyday
If only linux or freebsd had some directx like layer with proper drivers... Ehhh things are much more complicated than that
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Post Fri Jul 05, 2002 5:08 pm
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Hewf, I thought it was an asteroid report.
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Post Fri Jul 05, 2002 5:11 pm
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quote:
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...has control over every computer (save macs)...

I guess this would be a bad time to point out that MS is the chief provider of s/w for MacOS platform (or at least has been for many years). MS also owns a substantial sum of Apple shares. And has made several critical infusions of cash into the company as Apple was about to fold, few times.

Apple as a company exists today only because MS wouldn't let it die. Hmmm... never thought of MS as necromencers...
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Post Fri Jul 05, 2002 5:37 pm
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all my illusions have been stripped away from me. thank you moondragon! everything is microsoft; microsoft is everything. maybe microsoft is just part of the tao of everything.
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Post Fri Jul 05, 2002 6:21 pm
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We're headed toward 'Big Brother'; eventually he'll be watching everything. My question is not is it going to happen, but who exactly will be the one's watching? And will we be able to watch them back? I hope so, I thought we had learned our lesson from the IRS on what happens when no one regulates a powerful organization.
Post Fri Jul 05, 2002 7:24 pm
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Good thing i believe a just God rules this world, else i would be about as paranoid as you guys. Do you really think the US government is gonna sit back and let Microsoft take over? I dont think so. America's govt has alot more power and money than dickhead Bill Gates, and will protect its citizens interests. Chill. Drink some chocolate milk. Dont act like a paranoid schizophrenic (like me).
Post Fri Jul 05, 2002 8:29 pm
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If you don't want to pay for microsoft software just use illigal versions, and say F**K microsoft

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Post Fri Jul 05, 2002 8:59 pm
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quote:
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Do you really think the US government is gonna sit back and let Microsoft take over?

Yes, if MS paid them enough money. Contrary to popular belief, US government goes with the highest bidder (why did you think Big Tobacco got away with selling carcinogens for all these decades?), not with what's best for their constituency.
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America's govt has alot more power and money than dickhead Bill Gates, and will protect its citizens interests.

US government's jursidiction ends at its borders. MS has no such inhibitions. US government cannot afford to have MS go elsewhere, therefore they will do whatever necessary to keep MS within its borders. Besides, as I said before, US governement's primary imperative is not to protect its general citizens' interests, but rather interests of a small subset of its population. This is why 17-18% of US foreign aid goes into Israel (of which more than 80% goes for military funding). If anything, this does not protect US citizens' interests but endangers them, as the shooting in LA, yesterday, showed. But let's not turn this into a nationalistic discussion.
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