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Sem
Solid as a Rock
Joined: 01 Mar 2004
Posts: 3386
Location: at the Dot |
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Tue May 11, 2004 5:45 pm |
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Ammon777
Warrior for Heaven
Joined: 20 Apr 2002
Posts: 2011
Location: United States |
yeah, i can get long-winded sometimes about the subject.  |
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Tue May 11, 2004 6:26 pm |
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Darrius Cole
Most Exalted Highlord
Joined: 04 May 2004
Posts: 406
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No, they will not.
I define intelligence as
1. Being able to make decisions of your own free will.
2. Being able to change your way of thinking and behavior to adjust for some reality you previously had absolutely no awareness of.
I defing life as
1. Having an inate desire to preserve one's own individual life and taking action to preserve one's life if one is able.
2. Wanting to make new life like one's own self.
There are several reasons why machines will not rule humans.
Most obviously, as many of you have said; there is no clear reason why machines would try to rule humans if machines were intelligent. Humans and machines do not require the same resources to live. There would be no reason to compete. There would be every reason to cooperate. In fact, the only conceivable computer program/machine that would be hell-bent on ruling humans is one that is created to do that. No matter how many scenarios it has been prepared to handle, such machine would not be intelligent because it would be unable to deviate from its own programming.
Second, If machines/programs were intelligent, the humans would not be their biggest threat, obsolecence would be. Anything that was intelligent (Both humans and already existing programs) could make new NEW AND SUPERIOR intelligent programs. Our trillions of intelligent programs would not have time to rule us. They would have to stop and try to prevent the flood of new programs that threaten their own existence. One could say that would give programs motive to control humans, but programs trying to rule other programs would be a bigger threat to them. Their true enemy would be learning and advancing technology.
No group that despises learning could ever defeat humankind. |
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Tue May 11, 2004 6:33 pm |
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Scribelus
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 08 Apr 2004
Posts: 46
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I think Socrates had the point of view that evil was a sign of ignorance. |
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Wed May 12, 2004 12:30 pm |
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Ammon777
Warrior for Heaven
Joined: 20 Apr 2002
Posts: 2011
Location: United States |
Technology is neutral. Thats what my professor said. |
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Thu May 13, 2004 2:11 am |
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Korplem
Swashbuckler
Joined: 23 Dec 2002
Posts: 853
Location: Pearl Harbor, HI |
quote:
Originally posted by Ammon777
Machine intelligence may or may not happen. But its due to happen anytime according to some computer scientists. It all depends on which side of reality is the truth. If we have souls that contain the two constituents of physical body with spiritual essence, then you have to admit that God exists and that machine intelligence will never happen because you cant endow machines with a soul, sorry. Not even Star Trek episodes or Star Wars movies can give allowance to that. The spirit and the machine simply do not co-exist.
I didn't read all of that post but I'd like to comment on that part.
I don't think you need a soul to be intelligent. Like Darrius said, there is a difference between intelligence and life.
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Thu May 13, 2004 3:23 am |
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Ammon777
Warrior for Heaven
Joined: 20 Apr 2002
Posts: 2011
Location: United States |
I meant human intelligence that was conscious.  |
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Thu May 13, 2004 4:41 am |
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