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FICKSER
Village Dweller
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Posts: 10
Location: CANADA |
Hi Guys.
I was thinking of buying the german version of gothic2, because i dont think us Canadians are going to get it fooooor a loooong time,with all these Jowood problems.
Can any of you tell me how the English translation was done on the demo?
I opened the Ou.Bin file in the demo with word pad and it has a lot of symbols. On this thread it was mentioned that a machine translator was used to to give us the available english translation for the demo.
Can any body tell me how to do this ,what prog. do i need to open the files
and what translator i need...I know we have a translator at work... .
Thanks in advance..
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Maylander
High Emperor
Joined: 22 Mar 2002
Posts: 1712
Location: Norway |
Use Hex Editor, open, translate, replace files and wham bam, it should work.. if you want more details, don't ask me - wait for the real game in English.. it's even patched and fixed when it is released(90% of the people in here will have to wait exactly as long as you, so you're not alone.. ). |
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Sat Jan 11, 2003 12:33 am |
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HornOx
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 22 Oct 2002
Posts: 34
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quote:
Originally posted by FICKSER
Can any of you tell me how the English translation was done on the demo?
With a few lines of Perl-Code
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Originally posted by HornOx
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Originally posted by Phalanx
I wonder if this same method can be approached using the German Gothic 2 full version.
sure, but...
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Originally posted by Gorath
[...]Itīs possible that your translation will harm the Gothic II sales in the English speaking world! The info that the translation is fan-made might get lost somewhere. And then many people could base there buying decision upon a German demo with non-professional subtitles. 
And: If anyone can download the german Gothic 2 full version via Edonkey and use a fan-made translation, he may not buy the english version
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Originally posted by elkston
Don't get me wrong, I am grateful that xerxes has provided this auto translator, but some of the stuff is just hilarious.
The hilarious auto translation is my work. xerxes last post in this forum is a few weeks ago, i don't know if he will ever finish his translation |
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Sun Jan 12, 2003 5:50 pm |
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Kiwi Boy
High Emperor
Joined: 03 Jan 2003
Posts: 1086
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quote:
Originally posted by HornOx
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Originally posted by Xerxes712
Automatic translators really do not get the complex meaning of German sentence for the most part. I noticed in the data files there are files with thier English transcripts along with the in-game German text. Very odd.
But the are fast 
Rename ou.bin, menu.dat and gothic.dat. Then unzip this file in your Gothic2 Folder and start Gothic2.
Hehehe... 
So, HornOx is the one who made the auto translator...
Xerxes712 is the one who's making the real English translation... No more confusion!
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Originally posted by HornOx
xerxes last post in this forum is a few weeks ago, i don't know if he will ever finish his translation
I guess it's okay... we'll all be appreciated for his attempt anyway... |
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Sun Jan 12, 2003 6:19 pm |
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FICKSER
Village Dweller
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Posts: 10
Location: CANADA |
Perl-Code is this a program we can download for free???
I want to try it on the demo first.
Before i go any further.
Damn would be nice to know a firm release date so I don't have to go and try this. By the time i figure it all out the english verson will be out LOL.
Thanks for the tip anyway. 
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Sun Jan 12, 2003 7:10 pm |
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Kiwi Boy
High Emperor
Joined: 03 Jan 2003
Posts: 1086
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quote:
Originally posted by FICKSER
Perl-Code is this a program we can download for free???
I want to try it on the demo first.
Before i go any further.
Well, according to PerlDoc.com,
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Perl is a high-level programming language with an eclectic heritage written by Larry Wall and a cast of thousands. It derives from the ubiquitous C programming language and to a lesser extent from sed, awk, the Unix shell, and at least a dozen other tools and languages. Perl's process, file, and text manipulation facilities make it particularly well-suited for tasks involving quick prototyping, system utilities, software tools, system management tasks, database access, graphical programming, networking, and world wide web programming. These strengths make it especially popular with system administrators and CGI script authors, but mathematicians, geneticists, journalists, and even managers also use Perl. Maybe you should, too.
Source: http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.6/pod/perlfaq1.html
So, all in all, it's a programming language. Do you think you can master Perl before the game release?
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Originally posted by FICKSER
Damn would be nice to know a firm release date so I don't have to go and try this. By the time i figure it all out the english verson will be out LOL.
The officially announced release date is Q1 2003, and the exact release date is not yet known. It can be the end of Jan, mid Feb, or the beginning of March. |
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Sun Jan 12, 2003 11:16 pm |
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FICKSER
Village Dweller
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Posts: 10
Location: CANADA |
LOL .NO i don't think i can master Perl-code before the game is released here.
I thought it would be a little easier. 
I will just wait for the English version to come out.
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Mon Jan 13, 2003 4:32 am |
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Kiwi Boy
High Emperor
Joined: 03 Jan 2003
Posts: 1086
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Or you can use a German-English dictionary and master your dictionary-flipping skills.. that what I did.. hehe..
By the way, Jowood have just passed through their financial problems today. Hopefully they'll announce the release date some time this week. |
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Mon Jan 13, 2003 5:23 am |
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Kiwi Boy
High Emperor
Joined: 03 Jan 2003
Posts: 1086
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Thanks so much... HornOx...
The new conversation subtitles are MUCH more understandable... At first glance, they seem to be translated by actual human beings.
Comparison: (SPOILER: lines by Lothar)
OLD: First: the honor values Paladin lord cultivated resides together with its troop in the upper quarter. Therefore the access to the upper quarter only honor value is allowed castles.
NEW: First: The honorable paladin Lord Hagen resides in the upper quarter, along with his troops. That is why access to the upper quarter is allowed only to honorable citizens.
But, the names of NPC's are a bit strange. Lord Andre becomes "Others", Fester becomes "Solid", and Pepe becomes "Satan". If you have time, HornOx, I hope you can fix that.
Anyway, well done and thanks for your work, HornOx!! |
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Mon Jan 20, 2003 4:21 am |
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oozle
Keeper of the Gates
Joined: 18 Dec 2001
Posts: 112
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Originally posted by HornOx
i guess this translation is better as the last one: http://tagmt.devmode.de/downloads/g2demo_english.zip
(unzip in "c:\program files\Gothic2 Demo\DATA")
The link is down |
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Mon Jan 20, 2003 7:36 am |
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HornOx
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 22 Oct 2002
Posts: 34
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The conversation subtitles are translated by actual human beings, the german patch 1.29 Beta contains an english version of the conversation subtitles I use the auto translator only for the remaining text (including names, item discription etc).
@oozle: The link was just for a few minutes down. |
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Mon Jan 20, 2003 8:28 pm |
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Srikandi
Noble Knight
Joined: 04 Dec 2001
Posts: 222
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 Does that mean that you could easily post English subtitles for the full version? |
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Mon Jan 20, 2003 9:33 pm |
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elkston
High Emperor
Joined: 21 Sep 2002
Posts: 691
Location: North Carolina, USA |
Ahh Yes, these are MUCH better. Almost a 100% improvement. Thank you very much, HornOx. I am now playing the demo again and getting further enjoyment because I can better understand the translations.
There are still a few awkward word and phrase choices (in the conversations I mean, the other stuff I know was auto translated) though. I hope that this isn't the FINAL version and that there will be further polishing before the official english release. Gothic I had an almost flawless English translation. The language used was quite natural even down to the slang. You would never know that the game was originally in German and that's how it should be. I hope that the same high standards are met for Gohtic II.
Also, it seems the auto translator made some different (even funnier) choices this time. For example, "Level Up" becomes "Step Climbed". I was laughing out loud when the game announced with heroic fanfare:
STEP CLIMBED!!!
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Originally posted by HornOx
The conversation subtitles are translated by actual human beings, the german patch 1.29 Beta contains an english version of the conversation subtitles I use the auto translator only for the remaining text (including names, item discription etc).
@oozle: The link was just for a few minutes down.
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Tue Jan 21, 2003 12:54 am |
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InfernalSlayer
Head Merchant
Joined: 13 Jun 2002
Posts: 54
Location: Hell |
Wow i haven t been on the net so long that they make an english subtitles!!! i will like to get this subtitles because i dont understand german too! can some one tell me something about it and meybe send them to me please!
Thanx!
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