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Gorath
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Typical hardcore gamer behaviour. The hardcore gamer per se is very conservative when it comes to his favourite game. "Make everything bigger and better, be innovative - but donīt change anything!"
Listening too much to your fan base is a safe route to commercial death because you scare the casual gamers away. Imagine how many people more would have bought TNotR without the talk of it being "difficult".
I bet most people at PB donīt give a shit about what the rest of the world thinks about certain features, and thatīs a good thing. Public talk will of course be different. 
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Lysander
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quote:
Originally posted by Gorath
Typical hardcore gamer behaviour. The hardcore gamer per se is very conservative when it comes to his favourite game. "Make everything bigger and better, be innovative - but donīt change anything!"
Listening too much to your fan base is a safe route to commercial death because you scare the casual gamers away.
Perhaps, but completely ignoring the fans is also bad - look at Deus Ex: Invisible War. |
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X-dANGEr
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Originally posted by Sem
I don't get this. I've heared a lot of fans on the WoG worrying about all kinds of things instead of being happy.
Doesn't that question indicate so??
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Originally posted by Question 5
Will Gothic 3 be a run-of-the-mill game?
You're unbelievable. You only have three pages of information about the game and yet you already fear to get an ordinary game. Just trust us that we will keep our style.
They are actually saying that we should be patient and that we shouldn't worry, as they are keeping their style, e.i. Gothic series style ...
@Gorath: Yes, i agree.
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Gorath
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quote:
Originally posted by Lysander
Perhaps, but completely ignoring the fans is also bad - look at Deus Ex: Invisible War.
Yes, this game was a failure because Ion Storm / Eidos alienated their fan base and these fans didnīt tell the rest of the world how great the game is.
Of course the developers have to find a compromise. If they need to sell 250k to reach the break even they have to be attractive to the casual gamer and make sure their fans still buy it. If they only sell to their fans they go out of business soon.
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Sem
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quote:
Originally posted by X-dANGEr
quote:
Originally posted by Sem
I don't get this. I've heared a lot of fans on the WoG worrying about all kinds of things instead of being happy.
Doesn't that question indicate so??
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Originally posted by Question 5
Will Gothic 3 be a run-of-the-mill game?
You're unbelievable. You only have three pages of information about the game and yet you already fear to get an ordinary game. Just trust us that we will keep our style.
You don't understand me correctly, X. What I tried to say was that I didn't get the reaction of those hardcore fans on WoG. I understand the question, but I fail to understand why many fans worry about certain things and changes. That's what I meant.
@Gorath: That means that G3 will see daylight no matter what, right?
Great!
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Kamahl
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well i dont want to be pain in the ass but those pics are no longer vieweble so could oyu pls remove them for i cannot stand it that every time i read the thread name i get so excited but then i remember that i allready checked it and was dissappointed
and hi to all the guys here for as you can see i am new to this forum
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Gorath
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I split the "confirmed infos" thread.
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MSG
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Yeah. The problem of most Guys in WoG is, that they are idiots and spammer and the others are "I want in G3 to have children and have a wife and make a house, a farm, a dog and a monkey on my head"  ... yeah the WoG community is sometimes a strange place but its ok. Some Users have a brain ( incredible but true!). Yeah some always only say "Alles wird gut" (everything will be good!)... and im one of this person. I think the PBs know what they are doing. They are the Developer of the game and it seems so, that JoWood isnt so bad as we thought 
In Fact we dont have many Informations now. We dont know much about the game so we shouldnt worry yet and wait a little bit. We didnt see any Human and now or the Hero.. we didnt see a Village or a City.. Man we only have 3 screenshots, so now isnt the Time to worry, no now is the time to look forward to the game and enjoy the new Screens and Informations.
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Sem
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Counting down to the E3 (18-20th of May). That will probably give a lot more info than just 3 screens.
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SlamDunk
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Oh yeah! I think all of us fans are anxiously waiting for E3 and all the great stuff it has in store. Gothic 3 and much much more, though G3 is my number one target for interest, of course 
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MSG
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Yeah and we get an new Trailer ^^ but im more looking forward to Zelda
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X-dANGEr
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What does E3 mean 
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Sem
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I don't know what it means, but I do know what it is
It's a very large exposium for soft- and hardware. Every respecting publisher has a stand where it present their most promising games.
Large developers have a stand there too, consoles etc. It's the place to be when it comes to new developments in the gaming circuit.
www.e3expo.com
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Just found on the site that E3 means ELECTRONIC ENTERTAINMENT EXPO
From the official site:
E3 Factsheet
ABOUT E3 2005
THE ELECTRONIC ENTERTAINMENT EXPO
"WHERE BUSINESS GETS FUN"
OVERVIEW
The Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3), "Where Business Gets Fun," is the world's leading trade event exclusively dedicated to showcasing interactive entertainment and educational software and related products. E3 2005, kicks off at the Los Angeles Convention Center May 18 - 20. Conferences are held May 17 - 19 and the show floor is open May 18 - 20.
The industry's annual focal point, E3 draws tens of thousands of industry professionals to experience the future of interactive entertainment. The industry's most influential people leading the most innovative companies come to this event to showcase groundbreaking new technologies and never-before-seen products for computers, video game consoles, handheld systems and the Internet.
Show attendees also have the opportunity to participate in a variety of learning workshops and conferences focused on the specific interests and educational needs of professionals in the interactive entertainment business.
I hope you have an idea now what kind of happening the E3 is.
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Ratavuk
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E3 = EPISODE 3  |
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Lintra
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quote:
Originally posted by Ratavuk
E3 = EPISODE 3
Ouch!
Sorry for the spam, but I just couldn't pass this one up w/o comment.
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