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RPGDot Forums > Gothic 2 - Troubleshooting

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Ragnar
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Gorath…my mistake…Nico, please accept my humble apology for my error. Since I am a hardware/OS guy, I just assumed that ‘keep of the bugs’ meant QA…and you know what that means. I made an ass out of myself.

I won’t let it happen again.
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Post Tue Jul 08, 2003 6:12 pm
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Daedalus
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Brak moved some kind of file from system32 folder so maybe this file did something with the game try to move it to another dir and try then it was VSDS or sth like that
Post Wed Jul 09, 2003 3:59 pm
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Ragnar
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Re: Mind Blower...
   

quote:
Originally posted by Ragnar
This ones for Nico…I now your out there somewhere.

First…The Stats:
AMD Athlon 1.2ghz TBird
1gig 333 DDRam
GF4 Ti 4600 64MB
Win XP Pro

After reading how a RAM upgrade boosted game performance, I installed another 512MB in my system and doubled the cache settings in the .ini file. I didn’t notice any real performance increase so I blamed it on the crappy CPU speed. Then a few nights ago…for no apparent reason…I decided to max out all the video setting from the control panel in the game (didn’t want to exit out of the game). Everyone was saying how great the game look and I wanted to see too! I even went from 102x178 to 1280x1024 and hit enter. I resumed the game (after picking my jaw up off the floor) and fell back in my chair…the game was blazing!! I couldn’t believe it!!! Common sense told me that the game should be running slower, but it didn’t. IT RAN FASTER!!!! I hadn’t smoked anything…so I know it wasn’t me. Man, I played all night (2-3am). Even the city ran smooth (kind of). The next day I started G2 and went to get something while it loaded. When I got back the screen was blank… ...the HD light was fickern so I knew it wasn’t a lock up but the monitor power light was orange, no video signal, shit! I cycled the power on the monitor and regained the vid. G2 was playing the into again and everything was good…until I started playing. Back to a mediocre system performance . Why, why I ask you? What happened during the intro that set my system back from deamsville?

I remember you saying the intro does a perf setup…what does it change? More importantly, can I get it back?



It’s a shame PB opted not to respond to my questions. For if they had and I was able to figure out why the game performance hit the dumps after the intro ran, I could share my insights as to what I found. The results could lead to better game performance for all…
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Post Fri Jul 11, 2003 8:59 pm
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Swanny
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Memory bottleneck?
   

Well the game runs as smooth as glass on mine until I hit the farms and the city.
I was considering upgrading to 1Gb of memory with another 512Mb

Does anyone know if I can expect an increase in performance from this upgrade?

Currently Using:
Intel Pentium 4 - 2.4 Ghz
ATi Radeon Mobility 9000
512Mb Memory

Cheers Fellas,
Swanny


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Post Mon Jul 28, 2003 11:23 am
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well i did a test too yestoday i changed my CPU from xp2100+ to xp2600+
nothing helped and i changed my graphic card to Gforce 4 Ti 4600 and still it was in the city jerky well now if i only could get 1 Gig ram memory mayb it wants just alot amount of ram memory
Post Mon Jul 28, 2003 11:31 am
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Ragnar
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I am firmly convinced that nothing will stop the game from running jerky. I have ramped up my system hardware to try and get G2 to run smooth and I found nothing helps. The game seems to access data in a way that just causes it to be jerky.
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Post Mon Jul 28, 2003 3:05 pm
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Swanny
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Really?
How about upgrading to 1Gb of RAM and applying changes to the cache system in Gothic.ini

e.g the Texture caching frequency and sizes. (zTexCacheOutTimeMSec=300000, zTexCacheSizeMaxBytes=64000000)

These have been touched upon in the FAQ. Has anyone seen a performance boost when tweaking these?

Cheers,
Swanny
Post Tue Jul 29, 2003 10:54 am
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Daedalus
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thats what i am trying to do get 1 gig rams now instead of 512 its the only chance if that wont help nothing will probably
Post Tue Jul 29, 2003 12:22 pm
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Ragnar
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Read this...http://www.rpgdot.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=32999
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2003 1:42 pm
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Interesting - Thanks Ragnar.

Personally, I'm finding after immediate load up of a save game the frame rate is great (even in the city at 1600x1200 all details max), it's just when moving into a *new* area of the map from the initial save game start where it really begins to slow down.

The hard disk goes nuts and many textures seem to take a while to load up.

I'm quietly hoping another 512Mb of RAM will allow for much of these textures to be ready-loaded and ease the use of hard disk.. though I'm not holding my breath

Swanny

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Intel Pentium 4 - 2.4 Ghz
64Mb ATi Radeon Mobility 9000
512Mb Memory (..with another 512MB on the way)
60Gb Hard Disk
1Gb Swap file
External Soundblaster Extigy USB
Post Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:12 pm
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I have found that with the newest games, you really need a very fast hard drive to avoid slowdown. I went so far as to set up a raid, and I get silky smooth play almost 100% in Gothic2 with all settings to max running at 1600x1280 resolution..

RAID isnt really that expensive either. Just pick two of the smallest 7200RPM's you can get, (probably somewhere between 40-60GB) and buy a cheap Adaptec IDE Raid for just under $100. You will be impressed by the performance you get.

Heres my other specs:

P4 2.4Ghz
Radeon 9700 Pro
SBLive Audigy
512MB PC2700 Ram
2x80GB 7200Rpm HDD set up as RAID0
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Post Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:25 pm
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dont ever buy a noname or a cheap ide raid controller i had problems with it allready no good it wont install and conflicts everytime . if u gonna buy a raid controller buy a good one
Post Fri Aug 01, 2003 12:17 pm
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Adaptec is a no name brand? They are pretty well known to me...

I had no problems with this card at all, it installed first time with no problems and I have never had a problem since.

If you want to buy an overpriced product that does exactly the same thing then by all means go ahead.

If money was no object then I would just have gone ahead and bought two SCSI 14,000RPM drives and a SCSI Raid aswell, but that would have been REAL expensive. Sure would have been fast though...
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Post Fri Aug 01, 2003 12:48 pm
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Swanny
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Radeon 9800 XT & Gothic 2
   

Well, I can confirm technology has caught up and you can indeed play Gothic 2 inside Khorinis at 1600x1200 with acceptible frame rates.

I was getting 30fps+ with details on max full AA and 300% distance.

Truely beautiful, but unfortunately the 256Mb Radeon 9800 XT's dont come cheap.

Swanny

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Intel Pentium 4 - 2.66 Ghz
256Mb ATi Radeon 9800 XT
Samsung SM213T 21.3" Flat Panel
512Mb Memory
120Gb Hard Disk
1Gb Swap file
External Soundblaster Extigy USB
Post Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:10 pm
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Now I'm worried. I'm just about to buy a new processor for the sole purpose of Gothic II. After reading through this forum, I have become very skeptical. Will my moderate computer be able to play through Gothic II with an okay framerate???

specs:
500mhz PIII (soon to be 3.0ghz or better)
327Mb RAM (VERY worried)
WinME
DX 9.0
no sound (card is fried or something)
Post Fri Nov 07, 2003 6:26 am
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