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Sacred: Review @ Gamespy
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Wolfgarou
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First Diablo bashing and now Gamespy bashing? I do think their reviews are pretty good and see no reason to hate them, except they're sometimes abit harsh especially when it comes to bugs. I don't know about Gothic 2 getting 2/5, but if a game has a problem, it should deserve a lower score. I'm sick of reviewers giving out 5/5 or 90%+ for some buggy RPG that has 100+++ hours of gameplay and is uber hard core. Sorry, if I want a review, I'd prefer one that tells me the cons of the game before giving me the pros.
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Post Sun Apr 11, 2004 5:29 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by Wolfgarou
don't know about Gothic 2 getting 2/5


man i can tell you, THAT was a disaster.
just read all the comments of this review: http://www.forumplanet.com/gamespy/topic.asp?fid=4135&tid=1225284
Post Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:27 pm
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Hmmm, ever since Gamespy gave Halo a perfect 10/10 score while at same time pointing out that the Library level was probably the worst designed level in the history of FPS gaming, I lost ALL interest in Gamespy and their socalled "reviews".

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...and diablo 2 was a lot better than sacred anyways, if for nothing else because it was fairly balanced and bug free...


Except it wasn't fairly balanced nor was it bug free. What Blizzard did, and what Ascaron are doing while we speak, was to release patch upon patch upon patch to proper balance the game and though most of the patches merely addressed balance issues, the first 2 patches did fix bugs as well.

I too would much rather wait an extra month or two and then get a more polished and bug free game but since the trend is to let the consumers be involuntary beta testers, it ultimately comes down to how the developers/publishers handle any potential problems that arise after the release date that matters. And so far it seems that Ascaron is working just as hard as Blizzard did after D2-Day.
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Post Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:39 pm
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Wolfgarou
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quote:
Originally posted by fatBastard()
Hmmm, ever since Gamespy gave Halo a perfect 10/10 score while at same time pointing out that the Library level was probably the worst designed level in the history of FPS gaming, I lost ALL interest in Gamespy and their socalled "reviews".



Yeah, but I remember reading in gamespy that they didn't think Halo deserved that score in an article some months later. But Halo was really good, quite on par with Half Life despite the boring middle levels (only a small portion of the game if you actually played it). And it is much more polished compared to Sacred at its initial release. 10/10 maybe not, but 9/10.

About comparing D2 and Sacred, D2 was shipped bug free while Sacred has them. Nuff said
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Post Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:39 am
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Unbalanced characters, don't think so, they just play differently, think of them as different level characters, your avg. Gladiator will run through the early part of the game (reviewer's country) without much trouble while the Wood Elf has a harder time in the beginning but with a little thinking that evens out.
Sacred runs fine, haven't run into a bug yet and all in all is very good fun.
Post Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:18 am
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My impression is that the Sacred review was given to a Dungeon Siege fanboy because Ascaron didn´t license GameSpy´s MP service. Many big sites have a tendency to assign the resources necessary for a fair review only to games which are financially attractive for them, in one way or the other.
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Post Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:30 pm
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Wolfgarou
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I don't get it. Didn't Dungeon Siege use M$'s Zone matchmaking service and not Gamespy? I didn't play DS so I don't know
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Post Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:02 pm
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DS could have been attractive because it was heavily hyped (-> this drives visitors to the site) or due to adds on GameSpy.

I refered to DS-LoA because it was reviewed by the same reviewer. DS (LoA) - "The game play itself! (tm)" received 4/5. As a DS fan she was more likely to give Sacred a low score than somebody with a more neutral background.

It all comes down to 'GameSpy sucks!' The whole idea of selling a service to publishers AND reviewing games just doesn´t work. They should decide where they´re standing. If they´re reviewing a game by a partner they´re positively biased. A game by the competition means negative bias because they want to protect a featured product.
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Post Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:14 pm
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Wolfgarou
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Well, I don't think they'll lower the score of a good but relatively unknown (at least in the States) game. Whether they give better scores to others, I'm not going to touch that. But I seriously doubt any review website, commercially successful or not, will want to damage the sales of a game by giving it a bad score. There's no reason for them to do so anyways.

And just as a side note, one site/publishing (I won't name it, fans will definately know which one I'm talking about) hated Gothic 2, but still enjoyed Div Div and Sacred's demo. Different taste, maybe?
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