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BoogieMan
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Joined: 21 Nov 2003
Posts: 13
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I've read through the topics on this forum about Gothic crashes. Am I right when I say Gothic is not playable with Direct X 9?
When I try to start Gothic, I get an hourglass for about a seond, then nothing happens.
I've tried it out of box, and with 1.08k patch.
I have also edited INI to disable everything I could, and sometimes only video stuff, and sound stuff.
Here is my system:
Windows XP Home
DirectX 9
AMD Althon XP 2100+ (1.74ghz)
1.0 GIG of DDR SDRAM PC-2100 Kingston
NVidia GeForce III 64mb DDR AGP 4x (Driver Version 5.2.1.6)
SB Audigy Gamer 5.1 (also tried MCP Dolby Audio Controller)
Any help would be extremely appreciated! |
Fri Nov 21, 2003 12:43 pm |
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Wulf
The Shepherd
Joined: 20 Sep 2003
Posts: 2312
Location: North/West.England |
Welcome to the forums BoogieMan.
I have ran Gothic on Dx8 & Dx9 & Dx9.01 and they all run fine.
Is your agp textures acceleration enabled (in directx) and does graphics card pass the "spinning cube" tests?
Is your chipset agp driver installed o.k? 
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Fri Nov 21, 2003 8:32 pm |
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BoogieMan
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Joined: 21 Nov 2003
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Yes, it and the others are enabled. And it passes all tests.
I don't have problems with and the many other games I play.
Any other ideas? |
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Sat Nov 22, 2003 6:38 pm |
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Wulf
The Shepherd
Joined: 20 Sep 2003
Posts: 2312
Location: North/West.England |
Up until last year my pc was almost identical to yours and had no prob's
There are several things you could still check.
1. Absolutely no or minimal tsr's, no other applications running, no
"loaders" no screensavers, as "barebones" as poss'
2. The hourglass you mentioned points to disk access? is your swap file
windows managed or have you set the size, is it contiguous. Are your
dma's enabled. for your hard drive/s. What dma modes are reported
in device manager. Hard drives as master? (not pio modes)
3. What model Mobo ? Via chipset ???
4. You may try to start a re-install Gothic then choose "repair" to correct
any innacuracies.
 
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Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:31 pm |
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BoogieMan
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Joined: 21 Nov 2003
Posts: 13
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I've closed virutally all programs running that aren't crucial, I have DMA enabled, and write caching. system managed swap file, I have an
Asus A7N-266-C Mainboard. Ultra DMA Mode 5 it says.
My drives are dual 80 GIG 7200 RPM.
I removed my RAID controller before my last system wipe, so no they are not striped. I have no screensaver set, My C: drive is Master, my D: is Slave. E: is PlexWriter 16/10/40a and F: is a Sumsung DVD Drive. |
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Sun Nov 23, 2003 7:21 pm |
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Wulf
The Shepherd
Joined: 20 Sep 2003
Posts: 2312
Location: North/West.England |
Hang on in there BoogieMan.
Don't look any more at your system at this point, all looks good.
Virtually all programs? (no virus checker just yet)! your raid setup could be reset, it would'nt cause a problem (you can raid in xp. and i've even raided my raid! (dynamic disks) however: - - -
I would suggest removing any current gothic installation then do a full
advanced (tick speech) install. You should hear the background music whilst
installing, if not use xp's own s/blaster drivers (not the audigy) if you get the menu saying installed o.k be rest assured all is "loaded" at this point
Don't load any patch etc', don't alter any files. Try to run the game now (and turn up your monitor brightness just for now. let me know?
your system will run at full 1024*768*32bit easy, turn sky off.enable full modell detail (if it runs)
Gothic runs without the cd's (i have heard that sometimes it's possible to have "faulty" cds? CD-1 =454mb & CD-2=521mb.
fingers crossed  or 
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Sun Nov 23, 2003 9:09 pm |
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Korplem
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Joined: 23 Dec 2002
Posts: 853
Location: Pearl Harbor, HI |
quote:
...advanced (tick speech) install...
In american english he is saying 'check (as in a checkbox) speech' 
i think...
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Sun Nov 23, 2003 9:47 pm |
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BoogieMan
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Joined: 21 Nov 2003
Posts: 13
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I've reinstalled it about 6 times in different configurations. Without the speech installed, without anything extra, with everything. I heard the music during the installation. All kinds of different combinations. The CD's are fine, I played them on another computer. That computer's set up:
Intel 1GHZ
Windows ME
PCI Nvidia GeForce III 32mb
Direct X 8.
At the time, video driver number was around 28.11
256MB SDRAM PC-133
Allegro soundcard of some kind
That computer ran it alright, if you disabled the sky effects. If not, it'd crash right away. It had periodic crash when combating multiple enemies. (sound problem, if I recall)
I know can set my RAID back up in XP, but when I add new hardware I like to do everything from scratch, fresh install. And I plan to do that next month some time.
Man, this is a pain. |
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Mon Nov 24, 2003 12:13 am |
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Wulf
The Shepherd
Joined: 20 Sep 2003
Posts: 2312
Location: North/West.England |
Yeah man,
Metaphorically in english grammar, a tick means yes a cross means no.
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Mon Nov 24, 2003 12:14 am |
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BoogieMan
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Joined: 21 Nov 2003
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So, are you out of ideas? I guess I'm probably out of luck. |
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Mon Nov 24, 2003 12:04 pm |
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Gorath
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Joined: 03 Sep 2001
Posts: 6327
Location: NRW, Germany |
You could read the FAQ in G2 troubleshooting. Both games use the same engine.
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Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:15 pm |
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Wulf
The Shepherd
Joined: 20 Sep 2003
Posts: 2312
Location: North/West.England |
Hey BoogieMan.
There's many more things to check out but this step by step is a pain (your right).
Try this if you wish:--
Download & install the gothic player kit (1.08k) then start the game through the gothic starter. This program is very good at expanding, processing the game start files. Even better, if there are errors it can point to the cause.
On starting watch the hard drive led. a few slight flickers then 5 or 6 more intense, then the continuous one means your in, a failure at this point can indicate the files will not expand or are wrong. You could then run the "patch" and do the gothic starter bit again.
After this its back to the pc checking again *%"!¬(+~%$££"$*?><. 
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Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:21 pm |
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BoogieMan
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Joined: 21 Nov 2003
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I just made some progress. If I run it in compatibility mode for
Windows 98/ ME the game will load, but, if sound is enabled it loops and skips terribly. And when it skips, the game freezes along with it. I tried two different sound cards. Exactly the same.
So, what can I do now? I can get it to run fine if I disabled sound and music. But naturally, I'd like to hear the game I am playing. Any advice? |
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Tue Nov 25, 2003 1:31 am |
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Cm
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Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Posts: 5209
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In the game options did you change from one sound type to another to see if that helped. I know I had to play with it in one of the selections I didn't even recognize, but it solved my problems when I did. It was a simple solution that I overlooked for a long time. Read it here somewhere of course.
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Tue Nov 25, 2003 3:11 am |
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BoogieMan
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Joined: 21 Nov 2003
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If I disable the sound hardware acceleration, the sound skipping is reduced, and the game doesn't lag on the menus. However, it still freezes if I try to load a game. I've tried other sound providers, and it always resets it back to Miles Fast. I've disabled music and reverb. Nothing.. Any ideas? |
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