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MC_Renzy
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Cluster Size For Hard Drive
   

How does one go about changing the cluster size of the main drive during a DOS format? I tried using those 3rd party programs to change the clusters , but I couldn't get them to work properly. Is there some sort of DOS command that can do this or is it in the options while DOS formatting? I tried formatting it in Windows XP where it actually allows you to select the cluster sizes, but it won't format it because the drive is in use by Windows. It just gives me an error. So DOS is the only way, but I am not sure how I would go about changing the clusters in DOS. Right now I'm running as NTFS with a cluster size of 512bytes. I want to change this to 4K. Appreciate any info.
Post Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:19 am
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It depends on what Windows version you use.
The command to do partitioning from DOS prompt was fdisk.

See

http://www.computerhope.com/fdiskhlp.htm

for more details.
Post Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:48 am
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FDISK doesn't let you change the cluster size. The only DOS command that I remember that let's you change the cluster size is FORMAT.

EDIT: I just dug through my old DOS desk reference. Yes, FORMAT is the only command that changes the cluster size. But the problem is that you don't get to choose the cluster size. FORMAT chooses it based on the size of the logical drive. You'll have to look elsewhere if you want to pick the size of the clusters. The only DOS solution would be to create several small partitions.
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Post Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:01 pm
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It seems I mistake cluster size and partitions.
Post Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:59 am
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quote:
Originally posted by Val
FDISK doesn't let you change the cluster size. The only DOS command that I remember that let's you change the cluster size is FORMAT.

EDIT: I just dug through my old DOS desk reference. Yes, FORMAT is the only command that changes the cluster size. But the problem is that you don't get to choose the cluster size. FORMAT chooses it based on the size of the logical drive. You'll have to look elsewhere if you want to pick the size of the clusters. The only DOS solution would be to create several small partitions.



Not sure where else to look. Ever since converting to ntfs, I've been stuck at 512bytes as opposed to 4k when at fat 32. My drive is much slower now because of this. I tried using Partition Magic to do the job, but had nothing but problems. Any other way?
Post Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:33 pm
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This link here is pretty good, especially the links at the bottom and this bit here which might explain why your drive has slowed down:
quote:
If you did not setup Windows on the newly created NTFS Volume, but converted volume from FAT to NTFS, usually it causes MFT fragmentation so generally converted partitions are much slower than the ones being originally created as NTFS. Defragmentation tools are in general unable to defragment MFT, however, you can try to backup the whole system, re-format the volume with proper cluster size, and restore it back.
Post Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:25 pm
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You might find this link useful as well.
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Post Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:44 pm
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Insert your XP cd at boot (make sure you have cd drive set to be read first - option accessed through bios). Should bring up a bootapp where you'll want to choose 'setup' or install windows as opposed to repair. I haven't done this in a moment but the gist is, you'll hit a screen where you'll be able to format your current drive (make sure you're backedup) and designate partitions (where you can change clusters). If you have data you might not want to lose, don't do anything you aren't sure of - generally a good idea anyways.

Edit: Or Val's link.
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Post Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:58 am
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So, using a boot disk and typing in "Format C: /a:4K" would do the job?
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