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SG81
Village Dweller
Joined: 15 May 2004
Posts: 11
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I'm sure the publishers/developers can see the popularity of the Gothic series, and will put more thought into simultaneous localized versions, rather than their traditional ways of German first, English later. |
Mon May 17, 2004 8:36 am |
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Yamcha
Noble Knight
Joined: 01 May 2004
Posts: 224
Location: Mirna Pec, blizu Novega mesta, Slovenia |
The publishers don't see the popularity of Gothic series, and they prefer ****ing with english speaking fans. |
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Mon May 17, 2004 8:44 am |
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Wulf
The Shepherd
Joined: 20 Sep 2003
Posts: 2312
Location: North/West.England |
But there's no need to worry now,
It seams that Jowood is to release the English add-on after all.   
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Mon May 17, 2004 8:52 am |
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Yamcha
Noble Knight
Joined: 01 May 2004
Posts: 224
Location: Mirna Pec, blizu Novega mesta, Slovenia |
But when |
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Mon May 17, 2004 9:12 am |
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Sem
Solid as a Rock
Joined: 01 Mar 2004
Posts: 3386
Location: at the Dot |
Yeah, I'm positive now that it will be released someday but a releasedate would be a lot better
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Mon May 17, 2004 10:07 am |
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Wulf
The Shepherd
Joined: 20 Sep 2003
Posts: 2312
Location: North/West.England |
Yeah,
But we have "turned the corner" in this episode, and now with a green-light
"on" i would guess things will move forward fairly quickly. 
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Mon May 17, 2004 10:46 am |
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Daedalus
High Emperor
Joined: 04 Jan 2002
Posts: 2516
Location: Estonia |
i hope many ppl will buy it this time so the publishers will see that many ppl like it and gonna publish G3 real fast  |
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Mon May 17, 2004 10:18 pm |
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cubanaso1602
Village Dweller
Joined: 13 Mar 2004
Posts: 22
Location: Miami, Florida |
But look for instance when Gothic 2 English version came out in the UK first everyone in the US started buying the game especially methen when the game came out in the US less and less people were buying it so thats one reason that i think that Infogrames doesnt want to publish the English ADDON of Gothic 2..... because there werent that many sells in the US maybe????  
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Tue May 18, 2004 3:12 am |
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cothyso
Keeper of the Gates
Joined: 25 Apr 2004
Posts: 100
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Well, those who wants to wait for the official release are welcomed, specially as the official release will have also full translated voice acting.
In the mean time, it looks like we'll finish the addon's translation this week!!!
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Tue May 18, 2004 8:46 am |
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a24710
Head Merchant
Joined: 08 Aug 2003
Posts: 56
Location: Gran Canaria (Spain) |
don´t think you´re doing any good to the gothic series
if you finish the addon translation, many people will play it and the official english addon version will loose a lot of sells
remember that gothic isn´t a very famous game, and if you have a game with not too much sells, you add the fact that addons always have less sells than the original game, and finally that there is a free english version of the addon with almost all the features that the official one have, then you´ll kill the addon sells before it ships
and in the long term it harms all the gothic series, cause the next time, they will take even more time to release it or maybe just will not do it again, cause the bad sells the english addon have
these are just a couple of thoughts i wanted to share with all of you guys, i´m not trying to blame anybody, buy don´t think you´re doing any good to the community with this work, everybody should wait to the official english version now that we know for sure that is going to be released in a couple of months |
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Tue May 18, 2004 1:15 pm |
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cothyso
Keeper of the Gates
Joined: 25 Apr 2004
Posts: 100
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well, you're not right! and in fact, this kind of attitude lead to what's happening these days with gothic series: by not taking attitude towards this game's publisher.
we didn't said anything to the publishers for the looong time it took them to translate the game, we didn't do anything for the lack of their repsonse when we asked for addon's status for all these months, we didn't do anything when we saw the old gothic 2 trailer presented at E3 as addon's movie, and now we should wait patient for them to just SAY exactly when the addon will be released... do this in the future too, and all you'll do in fact is to say them "we don't care how bad you will treat us, you can do whatever you want, we'll still accept it!"
look at M$ and their Halo game policy. I'm sure you don't want the same thing to happen to gothic too.
and on the other hand, if people respects a game, they will buy it no matter what, even if they will have already played it in a cracked/hacked/subtitled only version, they'll still buy the official final voice acted version when it will be out (IF it's a good game).
so, as a conclusion, i'd rather say that YOUR kind of attitude is the one which really harms this game. isn't it?!! |
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Tue May 18, 2004 1:29 pm |
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cothyso
Keeper of the Gates
Joined: 25 Apr 2004
Posts: 100
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oh, and also forgot to tell you, that this translation mod won't mean the addon game won't be buyed, because it WILL require you to have the german addon too. And you only can take that by buying it, right?!!
so, the only thing it will do is to shift a part of the sells from the future english addon to already published german one...
and don't pretend is our fault that it came to this, because is not. it's gothic publisher's fault! |
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Tue May 18, 2004 1:48 pm |
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Chekote
Where’s my Banana?!?!
Joined: 08 Mar 2002
Posts: 1540
Location: Dont know, looks kind of green |
Now now, calm down boys...
I presonaly dont think the fan Translation will harm anything. The only people who are going to go through the trouble of getting the German version and applying the fan mod are the Uber fans (Us). The Uber fans will also buy the official translated version so that they can get the English voices aswell, even if they already have a fan mod.
The only people who wouldnt buy the official version are the people who either dont know, or dont care about Gothic, and these people probably wont take the time to try the fan mod either.
The bottom line is:
Anyone who likes Gothic enough to go to the extra effort to play Fan translation will buy the official version aswell...
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Tue May 18, 2004 1:51 pm |
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a24710
Head Merchant
Joined: 08 Aug 2003
Posts: 56
Location: Gran Canaria (Spain) |
i partially agree with you
but the main "bad guy" here is atari
atari is the one who had the rights of night of the raven, and atari was the one who did not answer any of the fan´s questions and was the one who should have done it
jowood has already showed that is not happy at all with atari´s behaviour and has already started to search another international publishers, so i don´t think jowood should pay for it
the other thing i don´t understand is why other games like spellforce (also from jowood) have a so fast international distribution. Who distributed spellforce??? don´t remember now, jowood should work with this publisher more in the future
with your translation mod some people will buy the german addon and of course they won´t buy the english addon later, so this harms the english release, but at least more copies of night of the raven will be sold so this isn´t too bad after all
atari is going to release in 28th may 2004 gothic 2 in spain with spanish subtitles
don´t know when was gothic2 released in uk, but i´m sure it was a long time ago
I HATE ATARI!!!! 
at least i can play the game in spanish (i´m from spain) but they´ve taken soooooo long to release it, i hate them!!!
pd:sorry for my english |
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Tue May 18, 2004 2:55 pm |
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Daedalus
High Emperor
Joined: 04 Jan 2002
Posts: 2516
Location: Estonia |
well atari is going after money and we all know right now the consoles make the most money |
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Tue May 18, 2004 3:44 pm |
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