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Monkey Fluff
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 34
Location: UK |
The Ultima Underworld thing is more of a personal rememberance than any kind of true resembalance. It just has the same magic.
I agree with the Morrowind comments, I'm not particularly excited about going back to the static isle of Vvardenfell. However, Morrowind was a well crafted game and for that I believe it deserves its dues. It does make you think though when you consider the years in which is was in development and how Gothic came outta nowhere.
I've just got into the Orc village. I feel I'm closing in, must admit I'm a bit scared that I'm actually going to meet the Sleeper... 
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Kamahl
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Joined: 29 Apr 2005
Posts: 1668
Location: Slovenia-Ljubljana |
ur still far from it
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Gotit
Captain of the Guard
Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 183
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I haven't played Gothic but only NOTR with Gothic 2 if I can add my 2 cents...
I agree, no other game remember me Gothic 2 NOTR but I can say the same for Citadel, Ultima Underworld, Fallout, Morrowind and few other.
But if this game series isn't help by not being in english I can bet it is a date in computer games in term of story density and world living. From this point of view nothing is near to reach that level even if for example Ultima Underworld and Ultima 7 was quite impressive.
From design and writing to implementation Gothic team must have a secret to manage that, is there any true quest bugs that doesn't come from an abuse of marvin mode, misunderstanding of dialogs (quest logs not always perfect) or items lost? (I speak of NOTR)
That said, those elements are the core of RPG but they are far to be the single points. And if the close combat system is also great once you start to learn use it, none of the other elements reach the quality you can find in other RPG there and there. This includes, the long range combat system, the magic, the class system, the story line and writing quality, the puzzles depths and interest, the secrets design. For all those points it is far to be the best RPG but they aren't really weak points.
More important, overall it is the best anyway.  |
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Squeek
Village Leader
Joined: 28 Apr 2003
Posts: 88
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Ultima Underworld, The Stygian Abyss was the first RPG to use the first-person perspective, and so it's certainly fair to compare it to Gothic. There were other similarities too. For instance, The Stygian Abyss was a prison.
I loved that game as much as I loved playing Gothic. As I recall, Computer Gaming World magazine rated it the best game of all time for quite a while. |
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Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:39 am |
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Sem
Solid as a Rock
Joined: 01 Mar 2004
Posts: 3386
Location: at the Dot |
I've finally played and finished Gothic 1. As a bandit/mercenary with fighting and ranged combat.
I must say that the game reminded me a lot to Severance: Blade of Darkness. Mostly because of the Sleeper's Temple. A lot of different ways to get through and back, shooting arrows to open doors and disable traps, lava streams which were a pain in the ass with acrobatics.
The levels in Severance were built the same way, IMO.
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Hindukönig
Guards Lieutenant
Joined: 27 Feb 2004
Posts: 170
Location: Halle (Saale) / Nuremberg [Germany] |
| Re: The CRPGs that Gothic reminds me of |
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Originally posted by Monkey Fluff
Gothic has its flaws, but it's honestly one of the best CRPGs, no, PC games, I've played since Morrowind came out. And that's saying something for a game that's now four years old and of indie development.
Indie development? Hu? Since when? |
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