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Chekote
Where’s my Banana?!?!
Joined: 08 Mar 2002
Posts: 1540
Location: Dont know, looks kind of green |
Hey,
I know people have posted about this before but no one seems to know exactly what is required to get the water effects. I know GeForce 3 and 4 support it but does anyone know exactly what process is used? e.g. Pixel Shader?
The reason I ask is I am going to be running the game on my laptop and I want to upgrade to a card that will support the nice water effects, at the moment I have a GeForce2Go and I was thinking of getting a Radeon Mobility 7800 if it supports it.
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Tue Mar 26, 2002 8:31 pm |
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Snoekie
Baron of the Court
Joined: 09 Jul 2001
Posts: 335
Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands |
To be able to see that cool water effect you'll need the DirectX 8 capable pixel and vertex shaders.
Cards that have that are:
all of the Geforce 3's and the REAL Geforce 4 series.
The Geforce 4 MX series DO NOT have that capability! Don't be fooled by the name.
Look for names like Geforce 4 Ti 4200, 4400 or 4600 to be sure you'll get a GENUINE Geforce 4 instead of the misleading Geforce 4 MX.
Personaly I'm looking at the Geforce 3 Ti 200, since that's the cheapest card at the moment who will give me that pixel and vertex shader I want 
But there is still time untill Morrowind comes out. Who knows what new cards we'll see in the mean time?
EDIT: I don't know if that particular Radeon will support it. I do know that some Radeon card do.
Just go Geforce man, it's better  (i'm kidding, just take the card you like best ofcourse)
[ This Message was edited by: Snoekie on 2002-03-26 15:04 ] |
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Tue Mar 26, 2002 9:01 pm |
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Chekote
Where’s my Banana?!?!
Joined: 08 Mar 2002
Posts: 1540
Location: Dont know, looks kind of green |
I would love to go GeForce but since I use a laptop I am real limited in my choice. The only other GeForce I can get is a GeForce4MX 440 and as you rightly point out it doesnt have what it takes! |
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Tue Mar 26, 2002 9:33 pm |
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Incindium
Captain of the Guard
Joined: 17 Oct 2001
Posts: 187
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I'm pretty sure the Radeon 8500 it the only ATI card that will support the pretty water effects like the GF3's and 4's. Currently I dont think there is a laptop vid card on the market that has the DirectX 8 capable pixel and vertex shaders.
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Wed Mar 27, 2002 12:15 am |
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Chekote
Where’s my Banana?!?!
Joined: 08 Mar 2002
Posts: 1540
Location: Dont know, looks kind of green |
Just a quick correction. Its the Radeon Mobility 7500 not 7800. Sorry. |
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Wed Mar 27, 2002 4:42 pm |
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miyag
Village Dweller
Joined: 20 Mar 2002
Posts: 3
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The only ati card that supports the water effects is radeon 8500, and don’t get a GeForce4mx it’s like a GeForce2 but faster. |
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Wed Mar 27, 2002 6:14 pm |
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Aprogas
Village Leader
Joined: 23 Mar 2002
Posts: 77
Location: Kingdom of the Netherlands |
If your videocard does not support the water effects, you can always take some LSD and you'll see nice effects as well. 
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Wed Mar 27, 2002 8:26 pm |
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Dreaga07
Guards Lieutenant
Joined: 20 Jan 2002
Posts: 169
Location: Vancouver, WA |
I want to see water effects.... All I have is a ATI Rage Pro 128, its a decent card but i wont get water effects.......I need a Geforce....im thinkin a GeForce 3 Ti 500 for Morrowind and also for Everquest, but what i want to know is will a Ti 200 work as well? Cause that would save me some cash seein as how the last Ti 500 i saw was $349.00
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Thu Mar 28, 2002 11:58 pm |
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Chekote
Where’s my Banana?!?!
Joined: 08 Mar 2002
Posts: 1540
Location: Dont know, looks kind of green |
They have a GeForce3 Ti 500 at this site for $232.78:
http://www.thenerds.net/productpage.asp?pn=714888
As far as I know as long as its a GeForce3 Ti or higher then it will work. Dont buy any MX (Even the GeForce4) cuz that wont support it. |
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Fri Mar 29, 2002 6:23 pm |
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Chekote
Where’s my Banana?!?!
Joined: 08 Mar 2002
Posts: 1540
Location: Dont know, looks kind of green |
Does anyone know where there are any screenshots of how the water will look WITHOUT the nice effects? |
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Sun Mar 31, 2002 4:10 am |
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Motoki
Head Merchant
Joined: 10 Mar 2002
Posts: 52
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Dreaga07
The Radeon 8500 can do the pretty water and can be had for as cheap as $135 (OEM) and maybe even cheaper if you can snatch a refurb on newegg.com. I got mine refurbished from them and it came with everything, worked fine and was in near mint condition.
-MO |
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Sun Mar 31, 2002 2:48 pm |
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Chekote
Where’s my Banana?!?!
Joined: 08 Mar 2002
Posts: 1540
Location: Dont know, looks kind of green |
ARG!! Does anyone here actually understand what a laptop is?
Thanks for the screenshot links snoekie, that helps a lot. There is quite a big difference but if I cant get the nice water I think I can live with it. I bet the game is still gonna be amazing without that anyway.
[ This Message was edited by: Chekote on 2002-04-01 00:15 ] |
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Mon Apr 01, 2002 6:10 am |
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kurtissanta
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| how do u find out what kind of card u have so i know if... |
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i can get the cool water effect.......oh and are the xbox and the pc versions supposed to look the same and will the xbox have the water effect.....sorry im stupid |
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Wed Apr 17, 2002 11:31 am |
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Danicek
The Old One
Joined: 15 Dec 2001
Posts: 5922
Location: Czech Republic |
left-click on background of your windows desktop
choose properties
last folder in new windows is setting
there should be resolution, color depth and current graphics card |
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