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HiddenX
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u are low on budget ?
u like old computer games ?
u know how to make DOS-boot disk ?
u don't care about good graphics ?
u wanna replay a game u could not beat in your teen years ?

then try abandonware, computer games that are no longer sold and free to download. I am NOT talking about warez - abandonware by definition has been discontinued by the developers, warez not.

Here are some good titles:

Betrayal at Krondor
Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain
Daggerfall
Dungeon Master
Knights of Xentar
Lands of Lore: Throne of Chaos
Planet's Edge
Swords of Xeen
Ultima 4
Wasteland
...

All titles can be found here:
http://www.theunderdogs.org

there are many more rpgs, but i can only recommend titles that i have gone through completely.

PS: the moslo utility is a 'must have' for most of these games.

Hx
Post Sun Feb 10, 2002 11:07 pm
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HiddenX
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my fault:

sword of xeen is NOT abandonware, sorry.

Hx
Post Sun Feb 10, 2002 11:14 pm
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Sir Markus
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Actually it's worth it to track down a used version of DOS 6.11 (I think that was the last version) and build yourself a Dos only computer, with an old 486 DX or P 90. It's dirt cheap to do and allows you to play dos games without having to configure to the windows environment. I just have mine right next to my main computer so all I have to do is move the plugs over if I want to play an older game.

A few other good DOS CRPG titles:

Anvil of Dawn (not sure if this is abandonware yet)
Ravenloft: Strahd's Possession
Menzoberranzan
Ravenloft: Stone Prophet
Dark Sun: Shattered Lands
Realms of Arkania III: Shadows Over Riva
Shadowcaster (More an action game, but pretty nice graphics and music with CRPG elements).
Post Sun Feb 10, 2002 11:24 pm
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HiddenX
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The Arkania Triology was great, i had a lot of fun with the strategic combat system. i am not sure if these games are abandonware, but if u can find them as low budget software or in a second hand shop - get them.

Anvil of Dawn is a solid rpg-expirience, too.

The Dark Sun games have a lot of fans - i'll give them a try when i have enough spare time.

Hx
Post Mon Feb 11, 2002 12:23 am
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Sir Markus
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Yes you are right, Swords of Xeen is not abandonware, but the 3DO store has what is called the Might and Magic Trilogy, which includes M&M 3, 4 and 5 as well as Swords of Xeen for 15 $US.

Not a bad deal; I just played through the Xeen games last fall and really enjoyed them if you don't mind the dated graphics.

As far as the games I listed, I'm pretty sure Shadowcaster is abandonware, but the others I'm not sure about. Ultima Underworld I and II are also discounted and a lot of fun for someone on a budget.

http://store.3do.com/cgi-bin/cart.cgi?product_id=5&customer=580990



[ This Message was edited by: Sir Markus on 2002-02-10 19:06 ]
Post Mon Feb 11, 2002 1:00 am
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Wolfgang
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I would also like to add the Eye of the beholder(EOB) trilogy.

EOB1 was the very first R.P.G. I've ever played
and i consider EOB2 to be one of the best R.P.G's ever made.(and also extremely difficult,full of puzzles!!!Something we rarely see in most new releases)
I think they are really worth a try.

Although both 3 can be found at interplay-store I've found them at
http://www.classicpcgames.com/index.html?page=categories&id=6 for free.
Legal or not,I can't say.(Probably illegal)
Post Mon Feb 11, 2002 2:03 pm
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HiddenX
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Sir Markus:

just started Menzoberranzan -

it is really fun to have the famous
Drizzt Do'Urden in my party and the automapping is very good.

Hx
Post Tue Feb 12, 2002 12:10 am
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soltys
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about dos:
if you happen to use 95/98/98se/me you needn't dos 6.11. Just reedit your msdos.sys, make bootmenu in config.sys file and be able to boot to real dos any time you want. It's a little more complicated with Me, but still possible to do. Though I never used win me. And be sure to load setver.exe, as many programs check version and cease to function if they detect dos 7/7.1/8
Post Tue Feb 12, 2002 3:23 am
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Sir Markus
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HiddenX:

Yes Menzoberranzan was a great game, might have to play through it again myself.

Anything by DreamForge is well worth playing they had a bunch of CRPG's in the 90's that were very good. Graphics aren't the best, but the gameplay was good, and I agree automapping for all their games was second to none at the time. They also did the Stone Prohet games and if I'm not mistaken Anvil of Dawn as well, and maybe even the EOB games, but I'm not sure...
Post Tue Feb 12, 2002 3:25 am
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Sir Markus
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Soltys:

Yes having a system that will boot to multiple OS's is one solution, but then you have to use slowdown programs, none of which are very well done in my opinion.

Maybe it's just nostalgia, but I like booting my old 486 DX to the DOS prompt and running the games 'the old fashioned way' goofy, yes, but that's just the way I like to do it.
Post Tue Feb 12, 2002 3:31 am
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Shrapnel
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HAHA Ultima 4 is like 4 megs. I remember when I bought it, it came shipped in (4) 5.14 floppies. Im like, "WOW this game needs *FOUR* CDs, it must be massive!!"
Post Tue Feb 12, 2002 12:59 pm
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HiddenX
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Some more games:

Dark Sun: Wake the Ravager

cool crpg, many sidequests, plays like Fallout with D&D rules. make sure you have version 1.10 - version 1.00 is *very* buggy.
if u play on a modern computer play under win9x and use a program called 'turbo' to slow down your machine.

same game engine - but more an adventure:
Al-qadim.

link turbo:

http://www.bhlegend.com/php/show.php3?page=utils

Hx
Post Mon Feb 25, 2002 10:46 pm
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Val
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Sweet! I'm going to have to do some old-school gaming this week. I've always loved old Dos games.
Post Mon Feb 25, 2002 11:54 pm
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Maggot
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When I think back to the old days, I think it sucks that I didn't finish the games back when they were new.

Now, when I try to play an old game, I spend time getting it to work on the newer computer, only to get disappointed by the graphics or music (that seem to be much worse than they were when I originally played the game). I don't know, but it seems to me that there are still many newish RPG's that I want to play to the end before I start on these older ones.
Post Tue Feb 26, 2002 12:13 am
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Sir Markus
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Also, two games that don't qualify as CRPG's but are hopelessly addicitive, would be a game called Deadly Rooms of Death (D.R.O.D.) if you like 'brainy' puzzle games, give it a chance, and it will have smoke coming out of your ears. The other would be DX Ball, a breakout clone that's well done.

http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?name=Deadly+Rooms+of+Death

Another CRPG, Amberstar looked very nice, but I haven't had time to play it, but it looked nice when I installed it...

http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?id=51

Another, more mindless game, is DX-Ball, a freeware Breakout clone that's extremely well done...

http://www.freewaregaming.com/aa/dxball.html

Captive was pretty cool and had decent graphics for its day..

http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?id=169


Another outstanding CRPG that unfortunately got buried under all the 'Quake' hype of the time was 'Realms of the Haunting' they have it on amazon.com for $10.00/US. Personally, I loved this game.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000050NRN/qid%3D1014687417/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F0%5F1/102-5381027-8332919

Just a few cheap/free gaming suggestions...


[ This Message was edited by: Sir Markus on 2002-03-07 17:06 ]
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