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Val
Risen From Ashes
Joined: 18 Feb 2002
Posts: 14724
Location: Utah, USA |
Because it's fixed that way to fit the story. 
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hwfanatic
Average Fanatic
Joined: 28 Oct 2002
Posts: 2850
Location: Belgrade, Serbia |
I don't know why you even bother *sigh*...
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Gig
Southern Spirit
Joined: 20 Feb 2002
Posts: 3226
Location: NFG Headquarters |
Ok... I'll make an adjustment and give you the benefit of the doubt, since I haven't played Gothic in a while, and assume that you must use Urizeal to kill the immortal templars too. The sword still only works that way inside the Sleepers temple on specific creatures... it's ineffective as a broad range weapon.
I don't actually think that you need to use Urizeal against the immortal templars though... I've played all the way through Gothic four times now and I only remember using that weapon against them one time. I never did it again because it was too hard, I've never managed to get good at sword fighting. I'm not sure that once you reset the templers immortality flags by having Urizeal indentified you can't just fight them normally (I love the Death bow).
At any rate, Urizeal is only immune (if that's the case) to the armor of specific monsters during the end game in the sleepers temple... against all the others it bears the same limitations without the advantages of all the other weapons.
@Lizzy--I loved Redwing, it's a very beautiful sword, only don't walk too close to Cor Angar while you're carrying it or he'll hack you to bits! That's what he did to me after I inserted Redwing!  |
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Sun Jan 19, 2003 12:55 pm |
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Maylander
High Emperor
Joined: 22 Mar 2002
Posts: 1712
Location: Norway |
I've completed the game about 8 times or so with fighters(the rest with mages), and you can only kill the 5th shaman, the templars, Demon Lords, Cor Kalom AND his novices with Uriziel(or death spells.. actually, Cor Kalom can be killed with normal spells as well).. so there must be something about magic resistance..
BTW. What is the Redwing sword?? Some cheat-only sword, or can it be found(I honestly thought I had explored everything I could explore..  ). |
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Sun Jan 19, 2003 9:41 pm |
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Jaz
Late Night Spook
Joined: 20 Jan 2002
Posts: 9708
Location: RPGDot |
Cor Angar's sword is called Red Wind.
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Sun Jan 19, 2003 10:32 pm |
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EverythingXen
Arch-villain
Joined: 01 Feb 2002
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I love that sword. I kick his butt for it as soon as possible (if we're thinking of the same guy... the guy who trains the templars... it's been a while since I played (reinstalling soon!))
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Mon Jan 20, 2003 2:41 pm |
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Maylander
High Emperor
Joined: 22 Mar 2002
Posts: 1712
Location: Norway |
Isn't he invincible through the entire game?
BTW. The design of his sword is a "Hero's Blade", but does it have a different damage? Something like Thorus' Sword? |
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Mon Jan 20, 2003 3:28 pm |
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EverythingXen
Arch-villain
Joined: 01 Feb 2002
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He could be invincible... I tend to turn invincibility flags off on the NPCs, though, after the first time through. If I screw up the storyline by killing someone I shouldn't I have nobody to blame but myself.
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Mon Jan 20, 2003 3:59 pm |
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Jaz
Late Night Spook
Joined: 20 Jan 2002
Posts: 9708
Location: RPGDot |
Cor Angar is immortal. Red Wind's stats: 2-handed, Dam: 105, Str: 80, Ore Value: 570, Range: 140 cm
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Mon Jan 20, 2003 6:25 pm |
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Maylander
High Emperor
Joined: 22 Mar 2002
Posts: 1712
Location: Norway |
Wooah.. certainly not the stats of the Hero's Blade! Should've known he wasn't wielding a "bad" blade such as that(with 70 damage or so)..
What about Lee? I never remember the name of the design of the axe he's using, but I know that it isn't as good as the Warriors' Voice which Okyl and Orik are using, so is there something special about Lee's weapon as well? |
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Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:56 am |
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Val
Risen From Ashes
Joined: 18 Feb 2002
Posts: 14724
Location: Utah, USA |
Lee's Axe is the best axe in the game. It does 105 damage.
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Tue Jan 21, 2003 4:17 pm |
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Cloaked Figure
Village Leader
Joined: 11 Feb 2002
Posts: 75
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The PICK AXE!!! I was able to kill a goblin with it at lvl 0.
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Tue Jan 21, 2003 9:08 pm |
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Maylander
High Emperor
Joined: 22 Mar 2002
Posts: 1712
Location: Norway |
So it's:
Lee - 105 - ?
Cor Angar - 105 - Red Wind
Gomez - 110 - Innos' Rage
On the 3 leaders.. only one I knew about was Gomez' sword.. |
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Wed Jan 22, 2003 12:32 am |
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Gorath
Mostly Harmless
Joined: 03 Sep 2001
Posts: 6327
Location: NRW, Germany |
You could have looked this up in the cheat guide. All three weapons are listed there. Lee´s Axe even twice. 
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Wed Jan 22, 2003 1:58 am |
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Maylander
High Emperor
Joined: 22 Mar 2002
Posts: 1712
Location: Norway |
Haven't read the cheat guide; I don't cheat.. well OK, I hex-edited in the Gothic II demo to get goblinberries and a great armor, but that was just because there was no other way to explore everything..
Also, I can't see the point of inserting Red Wind because of the looks - why not buy a Hero's Blade? They are of the exact same design(or was it a Kings' Blade.. I think it's the Hero's Blade.. ).. |
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