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TheRaven
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I am not even half-way through chapter 2 and already lvl 14
Is one likely to reach the lvl cap before the end of the game if you do all side-quests?
would be boring ...like it was in BG 1
Post Wed Aug 07, 2002 11:00 pm
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I was like level 12 in chapter 3. That character was crappy.
You can only reach level 20, thats the cap.
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You can easily reach the cap before finishing.
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Though I didn't. Went everywhere, did everything I could for the review... and I was level 18 or 19.
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why do they cap your level in the first place? i hate xp caps in games. i understand that the developers don't want you to become too powerful, but that means ending up with a character who stagnates towards the end of a game. crap! is their a crack for this out there in the wide world of game mods. ofcourse you couldn't use the character in mp, but in sp it might be fun.
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Post Thu Aug 15, 2002 6:00 pm
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They (Bioware) didn't cap the XP. Level 20 is the max "standard" level in DnD 3E. To advance further, you must use the Epic Level Rules.
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*sniff* Is that an expansion pack I smell?
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Unlike BG2 where your characters was maxed out already in the middle of the game, You get you character maxed out close to endgame in NWN. I don't find it irritating in NWN, it's also nice to use a "super" hero in the last hours of the game.
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quote:
Originally posted by Val
*sniff* Is that an expansion pack I smell?


The Epic Level rules are better suited for a computer game than tabletop, so it would be cool to see.

Good lord are they ever more suited for a computer game...

Saving grace of the epic ruleset is that no matter how powerful your character becomes (think Hercules or Samson from mythology, which I know was the POINT, but MAN....) the monsters are MUCH harder.

Would be kind of cool to see in an expansion for NWN... though I doubt it will ever happen, as it requires things like Prestige Classes and such and several HARD abilities to code.
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maybe this is a moot point. but, i am wondering why bioware can't take a little liscense from the D&D stuff/system and create their own game. i think the computer environment is different than the table top environment and would handle epic characters. i have to admit that i have never cared for table top D&D so maybe my opinion here isn't valid. but, it seems to me that the folks at bioware ought to be able to take advantage of D&D for those things that work well & shift away from D&D where they can make improvements. XP & levels is one area that they be well advised to expand or change in the computer game system.
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quote:
Originally posted by txiabxyooj
maybe this is a moot point. but, i am wondering why bioware can't take a little liscense from the D&D stuff/system and create their own game. i think the computer environment is different than the table top environment and would handle epic characters. i have to admit that i have never cared for table top D&D so maybe my opinion here isn't valid. but, it seems to me that the folks at bioware ought to be able to take advantage of D&D for those things that work well & shift away from D&D where they can make improvements. XP & levels is one area that they be well advised to expand or change in the computer game system.


The only problem I see with that txiabxyooj is that Wizards of the Coast don't want someone mucking around much with the games system. D&D 3E is sold as is (i.e. if you want to use the D&D logo then you use the whole system) - it about protecting their right and controlling the quality of their system. Basically they have decided that the current rules are what represent D&D so won't allow other to change them (a bit like Lucasarts and the whoel Star Wars continuity thing). If someone wanted to change the system then they would no longer be using the official D&D rules and there WotC would no longer be in total control of a product containing their logo. Although there is nothign to stop someone adapting the system and then not using the D&D logo (as long as they adapted it by more than 30%) but then you lose a powerful marketing tool.

I would like to see more PnP game adapted for CRPG as I think some would make very interesting (but perhaps complex games). Shadowrun would be very interesting as would Cthulu (I know there is a game stalled in production about this at the minute). So if any publishers are listening please talk to PnP companies about producing decent CRPGs (sit down White Wolf games, I didn't mean you - you had your chance )
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