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have 32mb tnt2 graphic card 1.4ghz cpu and 256 ram but when i play the game the frame rate gets very low every few seconds then speeds up and seems to be very foggy like the brightness is to high, i played with all the settings, someone please help.
Post Fri Jun 07, 2002 4:48 am
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Itīs a hardware problem. Your TNT2 is far too slow. I suggest you replace this fossile with a real graphics card and add another 256MB RAM. Then you wonīt have performance problems with Gothic and the upcoming Gothic2.
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Post Fri Jun 07, 2002 3:38 pm
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My little TNT2 was able to handle it. Of course, I had twice as much RAM.
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Post Fri Jun 07, 2002 4:38 pm
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Your card was able to handle it or you only think it was able to handle it because you donīt know how smooth Gothic should run?
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Post Fri Jun 07, 2002 4:46 pm
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It looked pretty good to me. I only have a few minor slow downs every once in a while.
Of course, if I could get it to run even smoother, well...
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Post Fri Jun 07, 2002 5:07 pm
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I was thinking of getting a Radeon 7000 64meg or another 512ram which would make the game run smoother. or will it at all
Post Sat Jun 08, 2002 1:43 am
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quote:
Originally posted by dumb
I was thinking of getting a Radeon 7000 64meg or another 512ram which would make the game run smoother. or will it at all


This is partially a good idea.
256 MB RAM are okay, 512 all you want as a gamer. Prices are sinking fast, so you might want to try without first.

A Radeon 7000 is also outdated and rather slow technology. I might be wrong here, Radeon 7000 is one of the few ATI cards Gothic has still problems with.

A relatively complete list of technologically up to date cards, sorted by price of the 64MB version:

1.GeForce 3 Ti-200
2.Radeon 8500 LE ~150$
3.GeForce 3 Ti-500
4.Radeon 8500 ~200$
5.GeForce 4 Ti-4200 ~200$
6.dto. Ti-4400 ~230$
7.dto. Ti-4600

Even the cheapest of these cards will give you at least 5x your current graphics performance. All cards support DirectX8 <i>in hardware</i>, even new games like Morrowind will run with full details.

To cut it short, if youīre on budget get 1. or 2., if you want the best price/performance ratio buy 4. or 5. .
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beenlooking and found a gforce4 mx420 card with 64mg wondering if the technology is out of date on it or what looked pretty awsome to me but don't really know , is it a good idea
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Very bad idea. The GeForce4 MX is a relabelled and overclocked GeForce2 MX which is a castrated GeForce2. The GeForce4 MX-420 is not even overclocked.
This is DirectX7 technology, not DirectX8.

See for yourself. Look at this short article. The GeForce4 MX-420 is ~as fast as a GeForce2 MX-400.

http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/02q2/020418/index.html
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and hows a radeon 7500, im kinda stuck with not many choices my motherboard isn't ddr compatable so i have to find the best card i can get that is sdram
Post Sat Jun 08, 2002 8:52 pm
 
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No it dosent matter if your board can not handel ddr ram.
It only tells you that u cant insert ddr ram into the RAM slots.
video ram type has nothing to do with that.
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Exactly.
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Post Sun Jun 09, 2002 12:47 am
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so is the 7500 a good card or not
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Read the reviews of people who use it.

http://computers.cnet.com/hardware/0-1107-404-7425583.html

http://www.zdnet.com/supercenter/stories/overview/0,12069,532976,00.html
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Post Sun Jun 09, 2002 1:40 am
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A Radeon 7500 is also a DirectX7 card and therefore less powerful, especially for future games, than all the cards I listed. Of course itīs way better than your TNT2 or the GeForce4 MX-420. Nevertheless youīll see yourself upgrading again when all the games which <i>require</i> DirectX8 hit the shelves. All DirectX7 cards will have to emulate these features in their driver. It will look okay, but it will be slow.
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