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Korplem
Swashbuckler
Joined: 23 Dec 2002
Posts: 853
Location: Pearl Harbor, HI |
I'm not really sure what I am.
Atheism is more or less the same as a religion because it takes faith to believe that there is no god. So, in my opinion, is in no position to insult another religion for having faith in a god.
Here is the actual definition of an atheist:
'one who believes that there is no deity'
Now, Agnosticism, on the other hand does not take faith for either side.
The definition of one who is Agnostic:
'one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god'
What I'm saying is that Atheists are only fooling themselves by saying that they are any better for believing there is no god.
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:54 am |
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RPG Frog
Blade Runner
Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Posts: 748
Location: the Matrix |
quote:
Originally posted by Joeman
[I don't know everything, and I am constantly looking with an open mind. There are a lot of interesting theories on the web out there. UFO theory is very interesting. Remember Elohim is God in hebrew? Actually Elohim is plural and it's literal meaning is "those who come from the sky." Singular is Eloha. That means God is maybe plural and come from the sky. It's possible that God are the "little green men" but we mistaken them as God. Actually God wouldn't be little green men either because according to the bible, men is created with their image, so aliens can look exactly like human.
Sounds like a cult known as the Raelians. These are the guys who supposedly cloned a human child. Are you in on this. When are we going to see your mysterious friends clone the first human child?
This is more believable that the bible? A document that mentions thousands of people and places that actually existed and can be verified with archaeology and history books? Man, I wish I was as enlightened as you!!!
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:04 am |
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Joeman
Protector of the Realm
Joined: 03 Jan 2004
Posts: 254
Location: USA |
quote:
Originally posted by kengo2019
Sounds like a cult known as the Raelians. These are the guys who supposedly cloned a human child. Are you in on this. When are we going to see your mysterious friends clone the first human child?
This is more believable that the bible? A document that mentions thousands of people and places that actually existed and can be verified with archaeology and history books? Man, I wish I was as enlightened as you!!!
Raelians? who the hell are they? Oh no. I am not into this cult thing. Don't jump into conclusion here. I got my info from being bored and read around all UFO sites on the web for entertainment purposes. I have however heard of this Urantia book? or something similar. Basically it's an attempt to re-translate the bible and more. Do I believe it? Absolutely not, but entertaining nevertheless.
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:10 am |
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Joeman
Protector of the Realm
Joined: 03 Jan 2004
Posts: 254
Location: USA |
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Originally posted by Korplem
What I'm saying is that Atheists are only fooling themselves by saying that they are any better for believing there is no god.
What I was saying is you should at least research all other religions and look at all other alternative arguments before choosing your own religion. After you do that, you could still be a christian (although chances are you won't), but you are already better.
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:17 am |
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OctarineDragon
Head Merchant
Joined: 28 Nov 2003
Posts: 57
Location: The Void |
I always wanted to be a Zoroastrian, 'cause I thought that was a cool religion, and Manichaeism makes for a pretty comfortable black&white outlook on life, too. Unfortunately, I find myself utterly unable to belief even a little in anything but a strictly rational view of the world according to the principles of the ancient philosophers, Descartes and the great scientific minds of the past centuries. Too bad, really, since religion offers such a nice, feel-good alternative where you don't have to worry a bit about death, injustice and morality, as it's all in some god's or other's will... |
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:02 am |
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Remus
Overgrown Cat
Joined: 03 Jul 2002
Posts: 1657
Location: Fish bowl |
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Originally posted by Val
Inactive Mormon. I still read my scriptures, say my prayers and try to live right, I just don't like going to church. *shrug*
It's alright, Val. You don't have to forced yourself to go to church. Even missing the chance to read scriptures or say prayers isn't a big deal either, so don't insist on doing it or feel quilty about it. It's good to try to live right, and maybe leading a happy and sober lives. Satan and demon are overhyped adversaries, Good vs Evil is concept that overstayed its wellcome.
Keep the "Fallen from grace" mantra.
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:08 am |
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Lintra
Elf Friend
Joined: 23 Apr 2002
Posts: 9448
Location: Bermuda, the triangle place with SANDY BEACHES |
Hey! The choices are are too limiting!!! According to a link to a quiz posted here well over a year ago, I fit non of the above catagories *grin*
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:20 pm |
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Myrthos
Spoiler of All Fun
Joined: 07 Jul 2001
Posts: 1926
Location: Holland |
quote:
Originally posted by Korplem
What I'm saying is that Atheists are only fooling themselves by saying that they are any better for believing there is no god.
I'm an atheist, and I do believe there is no deity whatsoever. But I fail to see why in your eyes I apparently also feel I'm better then someone who does believe in a deity because of that.
I simply don't care where someone believes or doesn't believe in.
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:29 pm |
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Bartacus
Il Buono
Joined: 24 May 2003
Posts: 4706
Location: Belgium Flemmish part |
Bravo Myrthos. I'm a catholic(a non practicing on) and I fully concer with your point of view.
@Joeman: seems you changed thought since you're first post a bit. My interpretation was that you feel enlightened above all religious people. I'm still not OK with one thing though, you look down on people who just follow the others. I believe that I'm absolutely no better then another and I admire most people who are truelly faithfull. I say most cause I'm also for one thing else: complete sepparation of religion and state.
I'm absolutely positive about the fact that in France people can't ware religious objects when (and during) they work for the governement. They also made it for public schools, but that is less nescessary IMO. I don't understand why only the islam feels itself attacked by such a rule. IMHO, this is just the normal way and gives more respect to other people.
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:55 pm |
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Hexy
High Emperor
Joined: 28 Jun 2002
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I'd say I'm agnostic, leaning heavily at atheism.
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I don't understand why only the islam feels itself attacked by such a rule. IMHO, this is just the normal way and gives more respect to other people.
Isn't it required, or at least more enforced for the women to wear those... scarves (which is the correct word?) in Islam, which is why it's worse for muslims? It's not as enforced to wear a huge cross necklace or anything in Christianity.
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:09 pm |
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Roach
SBR Belfry Bat
Joined: 20 Jan 2002
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I think there should be both an ‘I don’t know’ choice and an ‘other’ answer choices. I could see agnostic as being ‘I don’t know,’ both I think Jaz and I are both definitely ‘others.’
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Originally posted by Lintra
Hey! The choices are are too limiting!!! According to a link to a quiz posted here well over a year ago, I fit non of the above catagories *grin*
According to that quiz Lintra is a Neo-Pagan. *Another other*
And by the way, I do think that I am better than others, but that’s just because I’m in Myrthos’ signature. *g* |
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:12 pm |
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Korplem
Swashbuckler
Joined: 23 Dec 2002
Posts: 853
Location: Pearl Harbor, HI |
@Myrthos: I never meant to imply that all atheists say they are better, that was just directed toward the ones that do.
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:59 pm |
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Lanael
City Guard
Joined: 09 Jul 2001
Posts: 147
Location: lyon - France |
I'm an atheist who wonder why people need some virtual ( non"measurable?" ) entity to answer metaphysics questions. |
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 6:25 pm |
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The Republican
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 26 Feb 2004
Posts: 28
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Lutheran |
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:02 pm |
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Lintra
Elf Friend
Joined: 23 Apr 2002
Posts: 9448
Location: Bermuda, the triangle place with SANDY BEACHES |
quote:
Originally posted by Roach
I think there should be both an ‘I don’t know’ choice and an ‘other’ answer choices. I could see agnostic as being ‘I don’t know,’ both I think Jaz and I are both definitely ‘others.’
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Originally posted by Lintra
Hey! The choices are are too limiting!!! According to a link to a quiz posted here well over a year ago, I fit non of the above catagories *grin*
According to that quiz Lintra is a Neo-Pagan. *Another other*
And by the way, I do think that I am better than others, but that’s just because I’m in Myrthos’ signature. *g*
That was it! Thanks Roach ... you and I share our Neo Paganism. Cool!
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