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Malekitth
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 07 Nov 2003
Posts: 33
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Yep. been doing that and it seems to really help. LoL i have read all the post on this forum, going back 4 pages just to get tips  Learned alot. Hey here is a puzzle for you to work on im trying it myself. Try to figure out why through the verious stages and levels of the game Rat men pop out and attack you, normally just hit you once then vanish. Probally this is just for fun, but who knows might be some quest, i have noticed a few very odd things...
1) In crystal caves you can see markings all over the walls and if you listen carefully as you walk from Gobo city to crystal caves beofre the first little pond in the crystal caves, you can hear one hisisng at you. In crystal caves where the Big spider and the 3 little spiders are there is this spot where you seem to bump into someone who is invisiable. Its not a pillar i checked. It like someone standing there you cant see. Even with all spiders dead you can hear.... something also. Sadly dispell illusion didnt help. Ill try with Helm of Pox.
2) The outpost. Lots here. More of the same marking on the caves around it. Remember that ratmen communicate by signs. I know for a fact i Clearly Heard something Hiss at me walking from the out post to the gobo jail before i got to the gobo guarding the enterance to the jail "zone". It was loud. I look around nothing there. I use the password on the temple of Akbaa enterence and then leave before entering. A Ratman appears out side of the tavern and throws i guess a posion dart at me then teleports away fast. I tryed to kill him over and over he just to fast. I also find it very odd that Tizzy has the ley to the door to akbaa and also tells you have to be inishated (err my spelling sucks sorry) first before she can give you the password. No question she is part of the cult. If i knew a way to get inducted and have her give me the password i would, that blind preist might be something who knows.
3) A ratman attacks you then dissapers in the underground lake zone, pretty close to where you enter from gobo city area, straight out from enterence. Doesnt do much damage. You can hear him well enough as you make your way up the ramps to the sisters outpost secret enterence.
4) Yet another rat man in sisters outpost zone. This one will fight you and if your fast you can kill him. He easy to find as he stands there right past secret door to i think crypt i never got that door open eaither.
5) Bay far to me the most supisious is the rat man that respawns out side the dwarven mines enterence. Why the repop? he is the only mob in game that repops after you have killed him once AND have Not zoned (i mean leave one area to another) and back first. His spawn seems to be triggered by forging the Metor wepon. Interesting. Why doesnt he attack? After over 7 thousand hours played in everquest he totally reminds me of a quest NPC. Seen things like this before in other games. Could be a simple bug, most likely, but ill not kill him untill im shure.
6) Why the 2 extra peices of mitherl? Another wepon could be made. If one knew what to combine with the peices before making a brick of it, a new magic wepon could easly be forged. Maybe one no one knows about. "Assuming" this is true, id guess the reason no one has found such a thing is because the regent needed has not been found. It might have to be in a bag for it to work, like the metor powder was. So far all other normal combine items will not work, but again, there are Far to many forges, tools, blacksmith items, throughout the game for it to be just for looks. I mean beyond making a simple metal sword. For instance....
7) Why the huge eleorbate forge in The Ylside Bunker. What are the preist making in there. As soon as i saw the size of that thing and that Huge bellows that a player can operate, i thought maybe something was up. There might be a secret in the game to make magic wepons, like the vampire sword in crypt. If not lets hope that Arx 2 lets us 
 Akbaa has followers through out the entire human kingdom. The jem merchant, the maid / Cook in the castle, Tizzy, probally almost everyone in the tavern, probally quite a few more that dont revel it. The jem keeper and his wife, the maid, well i know they made the mark of Arx in my bedroom and sacrificed the chicken on my bed. Come on, they are standing in the throne room only after that happens and then ask "is everything alright" -yea ok. They are ease dropping on the king. Im going to rob that jem dude blind for that huhu. 
9) i could be wrong and il recheck it, but i swear, Iserbius wrote in his journal in his bedroom, that Lunshire was the one that inducted him into the Order and was his teacher. That sounds wrong i was tired ill recheck.
10) Whats with the camera zooming into show a rat, close up, sneaking up to maybe listen to what is being said between the king, the snake women, Alia and everyone in the underground lake at the end of the game. Maybe rat men can transfrom into rats, they shure got that teleport spell down. It is apparent they are in fact watching all that is going on, following your journey threw the game, gathering there own information. Keeping tabs on events, as those events will effect even there race. I have met a king of humans, king of trolls, king of gobo's, dwarfs seem dead, but never a king of rat men. If they are organized in anyway they probally have a leader (at least for storyline sake) and seem to have no city. I wish the sewer doors in city of arx would open, would have been a cool place to explore.
Well that was long im sorry, but id like to add to this list if anything else seems.. out of place, ot if anyone notices anything and if any of this might relate to the infamous "Golden YLside" This is basically how new quests where solved that no one knew about in games like EQ when it was new. Endless posts, of people trying new things untill something clicked and they made new progress. Even if this is all just atmostphere stuff i notice, and this puzzle only exist in the mind of the player and not in the game for real, id love to think there is a way to change roles in arx- Play as evil, become a member of the Akbaa cult, try to Help bring Akbaa into Arx, destroy the human outpost, bring sacrifices to him, and maybe even take over Iserbius's place as high priest of the order ( as he said in his notes and journal, "If anything happens to me") Would be soo cool to see arx through a different view, and attempt to bring the sun back into the land. Who knows if they didnt stick it into this game i think they should have, and ill add that to my "Arx 2 wish list" when i post it. Different endings for both good and evil paths, would be soo totally immursive |
Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:39 am |
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Cm
Sentinel of Light
Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Posts: 5209
Location: Missouri USA |
I noticed a lot of the things you mentioned, but I could never figure out any ingame connection other than it was for story atmosphere. I did notice one thing yu didn't mention and that was the rats preceding the rat men. I think there was a connection there between them. Did you notice the rat that was at the scene in the caves with the snake ladies, Alia, King ect. I always thought there was more to the story than we could get from the game. I hope A2 fills in more of the blanks. If you do figure something out, please share it here.
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Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:47 am |
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Malekitth
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 07 Nov 2003
Posts: 33
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Yep that was number 10. Then you have Akbaa teling you to join him, and after destroying the metor he says fine your choice is made. Also that guy from very begining that you break out of jail with you, he does join the akbaa cult, wonder how he did that. Did the people who made the game also make the PDF file? Bah, im probaly just dreaming but would be cool to play this same game as evil kinda like how Enclave has both dark and light campains. Ill Keep Looking.
O and i did summon the "Golden Ylside" wich btw starts out as a giant rat!!! Something is up with these rats lol.  |
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