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Lordr31z
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Joined: 11 May 2002
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| May have found the solution to everyone's mw problems |
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System specs 1.4 gig Athlon xp 1700. 512ddr ram Ati radeon 8500. I now run this game on 6x FSAA .. Full distance..Pixel shading on..Full AI..Sound quality high. 800x600. Well all i did was max my monitor refresh rate to 120hz. That is the highest it supports on this video card. As soon as i did that this game runs flawlessly everything maxed. It runs at 1000x768 but i just personly like 800x600. Also there is no ripping or tearing in the graphics at all. I hope this works for everyone!!!  wooohoooo!!! |
Mon May 13, 2002 7:30 am |
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| Re: May have found the solution to everyone's mw problems |
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Noone needs to read things like this dear JDR13.
This time I give you two warnings in one time.
1) you posted as anonymous, but you are registered, so you knew that things like this are not allowed here
2) you posted nasty things
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Mon May 13, 2002 8:21 am |
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JemyM
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Joined: 28 Nov 2001
Posts: 753
Location: Sweden |
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Running the game in 800x600 must feel like being short-sighted... Everything blurry and it is impossible to see anything on long range. Nah, I prefer lousy FPS than going so low.
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Get out. This is a respectable society. We do not like your kind here.
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Mon May 13, 2002 8:26 am |
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Danicek
The Old One
Joined: 15 Dec 2001
Posts: 5922
Location: Czech Republic |
@Guest = JDR13
I edited your message
@Lordr31z
I am not technician, but I do not think that refresh rate can affect smoothness in way you describe it.
And I am with JemmyM, I can not play games like this under 1024*768 with my 17 inch monitor. |
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Mon May 13, 2002 9:37 am |
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Mephisto
Leader of the Senate
Joined: 05 May 2002
Posts: 300
Location: Holland |
Danicek: hehe, I am planning to play this in 640x480 on 17", and I hope to get at least 10 fps on average. Long may my p3 450/128/tnt2 live |
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Mon May 13, 2002 10:07 am |
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Danicek
The Old One
Joined: 15 Dec 2001
Posts: 5922
Location: Czech Republic |
Yes, yes, I know people like this still exists, strange kind, but better than us "detail hunters" and "insatiable hardware companies fodderers".
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Mon May 13, 2002 11:02 am |
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Lordr31z
Captain of the Guard
Joined: 11 May 2002
Posts: 190
Location: United States of America |
i hate to blow out your flame there but ya it does. I have a 19 inch monitor and it plays the same in 1000x. It seems as long as i keep my refresh rate maxed even if its 100hz at 1000x it runs smooth. I am not a tech either but i am just telling how it is on my system. If i lower the refresh rate then all the lock ups and slow choppy frames come back.  Also it rids of the graphic tearing. same as if i were to run 1600x at 60hz. As long as the hz is maxed for that resolution.  |
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Wed May 15, 2002 1:51 am |
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Lordr31z
Captain of the Guard
Joined: 11 May 2002
Posts: 190
Location: United States of America |
HEH  800X600 is clear as a bell on my monitor. No blurriness at all. You just have to spend the money on a good monitor.  |
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Wed May 15, 2002 1:54 am |
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Midiboy
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Joined: 06 May 2002
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Just as an FYI to those of you that think the refresh rate does not matter.
It does, actually. ESPECIALLY if you are running Windows XP. The higher the refresh rate, the higher your FPS can be. Seriously.
Your FPS can NOT exceed your refresh rate. (Unless you turn VSync off, then you result in ugly tearing)
Because your video card depends on your refresh rate to display properly, it will actually reduce your FPS so they do not clip at your refresh rate when possible, so if you have a refresh of, let's say, 60Hz, then your FPS will likely max at 40. In a busy area, maybe 20. (This is to provide maximum benefit to people with low refresh...Direct X knows that if your refresh rate is low, it is likely because your vid card may not support anything better...)
So, if your refresh is, say 120, you will likely max at 100 or so. (Of course, this isn't the case with MW, as I bet no one can get over 70 indoors...but, let's be honest, who are you kidding if you think that anything in the area of 30 is bad...the human eye can not comprehend much more than 30fps...you can argue till you are blue in the face, it's just fact.)
Sure, 70 FPS is better than 30, because on a computer, more is better, but 30 is totally smooth.
Why does this REALLY matter on XP? Cuz Microsoft, in their infinite wisdom, decided to make ALL direct X and Open GL apps default at 60Hz, regardless of your refresh settings. Fortunately, most major video chipsets have drivers that shut this "feature" off. (The only reason I hate 60Hz is the stupid annoying flicker you get...)
So, in short, refresh rate does affect you, but if you do it just to go from 40 - 70, does it really matter?
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Wed May 15, 2002 2:16 am |
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Hawthorne
Keeper of the Gates
Joined: 25 Apr 2002
Posts: 124
Location: Michigan, USA |
Well I just set my monitor to 100hz I'll see if it makes a difference.
Surprisingly changing the refresh rate changed the size of the image on my screen and it had to be readjusted.
I'm not sure that it is true that you can not exceed the refresh rate of the monitor since I have been seeing frame rates as high as 130 indoors.
Only about 30 average out doors though.
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Wed May 15, 2002 3:54 am |
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Midiboy
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If you are seeing higher FPS than your refresh, then it is because you have VSync disabled. Trust me on this. I have worked for a video card manufacturer for almost 6 years.
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Wed May 15, 2002 5:16 am |
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FormerDiabloPlayer
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Joined: 02 May 2002
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OK...so I am an utter newbie when it comes to 'tweaking'  ...how do I change my refresh rate?....it sounds like just what I need....
thanks.......
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Wed May 15, 2002 5:34 am |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hawthorne
Well I just set my monitor to 100hz I'll see if it makes a difference.
Surprisingly changing the refresh rate changed the size of the image on my screen and it had to be readjusted.
I'm not sure that it is true that you can not exceed the refresh rate of the monitor since I have been seeing frame rates as high as 130 indoors.
Only about 30 average out doors though.
Mike
130 fps indoors!!!!! What the hell do you have in your system?(be honest)
BTW.. Where in Michigan? |
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Wed May 15, 2002 5:45 am |
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JemyM
Vault Dweller
Joined: 28 Nov 2001
Posts: 753
Location: Sweden |
Rightclick on desktop
Select "Properties"
Click "Settings"
Click "Advanced"
Click "Monitor"
There you shall see the refreshrate. I can personally not go above 60hz becouse of my 1940x1440 resolution.
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Wed May 15, 2002 5:45 am |
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Uruz
Head Merchant
Joined: 10 May 2002
Posts: 74
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the human eye can not comprehend much more than 30fps...you can argue till you are blue in the face, it's just fact.
This is not a fact, since it is incorrect, but I am not going to argue till I am blue in the face since I have the feeling we both think we're right 
You're right, 30 FPS is smooth, not really smooth. It tends to depend on the type of gamer you are. RPGers tend not to be as sensitive to high FPS as FPSers due to the nature of the games and the role reaction time plays. 30 FPS is nice, but 60 is nicer.
You can do a test with Q3 engine games using the com_maxfps command. The difference between 30 and 60 isn't huge, but if you don't notice it, you're not sensitive enough/not used to it, or not being truthful. |
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