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Dreaga07
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Joined: 20 Jan 2002
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Location: Vancouver, WA |
| What I want in the game.... |
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I played Gothic one for many many hours, infact i still go back to it between playing Morrowind cause i feel the need to have a linear storyline and actually see sitting npc's and see my weapons at my side. Anyways, there are a few things, that i think should be added in to Gothic II to make it a more realistic game. For instance, I want to keep hold of my torch and 1H sword at the same time. I mean what says that I can't hold a sword and torch together? Infact fighting with the torch and sword at the same time could be cool, kinda like a dual wield type of thing.... And secondly, I want to be able to loot armor. If I kill a guy I want to be able to take his armor and use it if I need some. But not if he's just knocked out, for then he would wake up naked and be quite pissed and then I'd have to kill him anyways. Just think...kill a guard, take his armor, and now your disquised so ppl think your a guard too...and now you can get into somplace you couldn't before. Like in G1 I always wished i could just take some guards armor and put it on, then Thorus and the others would think im a guard and let me into the castle. That way we would have more than one way to do stuff. I could be done with a simple script that npc's check to see if your wearing a certain armor, like in Morrowind, if your in the Legion and not wearing legion armor they wont talk to you, but if you wear it and aren't in the legion they will eventually get real angry and attack you when they realize your not a legion guard.
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MoonDragon
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Joined: 25 May 2002
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Originally posted by Dreaga07
Like in G1 I always wished i could just take some guards armor and put it on, then Thorus and the others would think im a guard and let me into the castle.
Hmmm... There were what... 20 guards in the old camp? And Thorus personally approved every single one. And saw every single one every day of his existance. And all of a sudden one day Jones doesn't show up for his shift. And few hours later this Joe shows up in Jones' armor that just happens to have few sword holes in it and bunch of blood on it still... Hmm... I wonder if Thorus would just play dumb and let you in like you were one of them for many years...
Anyways, I do like the idea of looting being dependent upon the corpse you loot. If you loot the guard you should be able to get his armor and his weapon. But wearing it may be somewhat different story. Maybe like the ordinator armor in MW. If they see you wear it, they'll all attack you.
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Jaz
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Well, the OC had around 90 guards (too lazy to count them  ). Don't forget those in the Old Mine and Free Mine, and Orry and the other guy at the exchange place... and Pacho... and those two at the other entrance into orc lands...
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TheLonePaladin
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you shouldn't have been able to masquerade as a heavy. you should be able to become a heavy guard. and thorus knows your name...well at least your face. 
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txiabxyooj
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i also found myself wishing that i could loot the armor off of corpses. but, then again moondragon makes a good point when he points out the small size of the camps. every knows everyone in gothic. atleast it felt that way. i guess that i didn't mind not being able to take armor from the dead...maybe our hero has too much respect for the dead. how could he possibly leave his fellow captives naked and dead by the side of the road? maybe our hero is a samaritan in disguise, after all he did set out to free everyone in the camp.
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Mon Jul 15, 2002 4:31 pm |
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Erb Duchenne
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Yeah... I thought not being able to steal their armour was pretty silly. but it was easy to overlook given al the other good points.
Well... if you steal a Guard's armour, then abviously guards are going to gang up and attack you! If your sneak/charm level is high enough... you might be able to get past most guards... except the top ones.
This feature would mean the armour, no matter how great, will be only good use against animal attacks and some small skirmishes...
On the other hand... if you're already a guard and you beat up a heavy armor guard... there's no reason why everything should be a-okay.
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Val
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quote:
Originally posted by txiabxyooj
maybe our hero is a samaritan in disguise, after all he did set out to free everyone in the camp.
He did? 
I thought he set out to escape.
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txiabxyooj
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yes he was trying to escape. but this required that he destroy the barrior, which meant freeing all the prisoners. i guess it depends on which camp you joined. if you were a new camp thug then the whole goal was to get rid of the barrior. the old camp just wanted to maintain the status quo. and the sect, well they just wanted to get high. by the way, do we know what our hero did to get himself thrown into the barrior in the first place?
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Mon Jul 15, 2002 7:18 pm |
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sauron38
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You will find out in G II, they say.
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Dreaga07
Guards Lieutenant
Joined: 20 Jan 2002
Posts: 169
Location: Vancouver, WA |
i don't know about you but i definatley didn't play as a 'good samaritain' i beat up just about everyone, and revived Mud so i could kill him over and over and over and over again. I laughed in Gomez's face when he laid there semi-concious right before i ran my blade through his slimy heart. I would have enjoyed being able to loot armor. And I definatly want to be able to keep hold of my torch when i pull out a 1h weapon. Like in the concept image at phirana bytes' site, called Player Vs Orc in the art section.
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The Hurricane
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Yeah... I thought not being able to steal their armour was pretty silly. but it was easy to overlook given al the other good points.
I think it was more a gameplay issue than anything else. It probably made the game to easy to just mug a heavy guard and steal his armor. Plus, as someone aready stated, Thorus definitely would not have been fooled. There were only 500 people in the colony? That's not even the size of a small school, and I bet a man in Thorus' position knew every face in the colony. I think it was fine in Gothic I, actually it was fun because it was hard work to get some new armor, gave ya something to look forward to in the future. Concerning the "holding a torch and 1Hander" at the same time...it'll probably be in GII, don't see why not.
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Erb Duchenne
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
Concerning the "holding a torch and 1Hander" at the same time...it'll probably be in GII, don't see why not.
You sure about that? Hmmm...
Anyway, it IS silly not being able to do that. It's as though we don't know how to use the other hand when we're on a single handed weapon. I can't understand if we're using a bow or double handed sword we have to drop the torch... but single handed weapons as well? |
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XeroX
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You could always use light scrolls.
It would be good if your other hand is more usefull.
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Tue Jul 16, 2002 11:22 pm |
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Dreaga07
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Joined: 20 Jan 2002
Posts: 169
Location: Vancouver, WA |
yeah, you could use light scrolls if you have them, but torches are far mor abundant, finding them layin around, in chests, and on unconsious (or dead) victims. Light scrolls cost more money and aren't as abundant as a torch. And I just think it looks cooler to carry my torch around, and find it annoyin to have to pick it back up after I beat the snot outta someone...
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Shoegazer
Village Dweller
Joined: 04 Jul 2002
Posts: 8
Location: Fort Walton Beach, FL |
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Originally posted by Dreaga07
Like in G1 I always wished i could just take some guards armor and put it on, then Thorus and the others would think im a guard and let me into the castle. That way we would have more than one way to do stuff.
You didn't need to be a member of the OC or do the swampweed courier quest to get into the castle. I gained entry into the castle by simply using acrobatics to get past the gaurds. This can be a little tricky tho. You have to get as close as you can to the gate whenever they warn you the first time. After that, simply roll past the gaurds and keep on walking!
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