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Val
Risen From Ashes
Joined: 18 Feb 2002
Posts: 14724
Location: Utah, USA |
Yes, you have to join a guild. Any will do.
You can't finish the missing people quest until you get to the expansion world.
The piece of stone is part of a key that you'll need.
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MoonDragon
High Emperor
Joined: 25 May 2002
Posts: 1254
Location: Waterloo, Canada |
People who give advice in this thread are skimming too much.
Let me repeat myself. After doing everything one is supposed to do: joining a faction, becoming a member of the Ring of Water, etc. If you ask Lares to take you to Onar's farm after giving him the ornament, he will NOT give you an option to take you to the Water Mages any more. This is BUG. He still has the ornament piece in his inventory but refuses to do anything but teach you. At some point, Lares had the option to take me to the Water Mages active, but I instead chose for him to take me to the Tavern. I believe I was going to the tavern after joining the Ring of Water and needed to go there anyways, along with Lares. When I came back to town to have him escort me to the mages, he no longer had the option.
After crashing the game many times with MARVIN, I finally figured out that all I have to do is stand next to Saturas, start marvin mode by going into character screen (B) and typing "marvin", then open console (f2) and type "insert itmi_ornament_addon_vatras" into it, then end marvin mode by typing "42" in the character screen (B). Then talk to Saturas and the quest will progress.
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Pladio
Magister of the Light
Joined: 15 Aug 2002
Posts: 379
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quote:
Originally posted by MoonDragon
People who give advice in this thread are skimming too much.
Let me repeat myself. After doing everything one is supposed to do: joining a faction, becoming a member of the Ring of Water, etc. If you ask Lares to take you to Onar's farm after giving him the ornament, he will NOT give you an option to take you to the Water Mages any more. This is BUG. He still has the ornament piece in his inventory but refuses to do anything but teach you. At some point, Lares had the option to take me to the Water Mages active, but I instead chose for him to take me to the Tavern. I believe I was going to the tavern after joining the Ring of Water and needed to go there anyways, along with Lares. When I came back to town to have him escort me to the mages, he no longer had the option.
After crashing the game many times with MARVIN, I finally figured out that all I have to do is stand next to Saturas, start marvin mode by going into character screen (B) and typing "marvin", then open console (f2) and type "insert itmi_ornament_addon_vatras" into it, then end marvin mode by typing "42" in the character screen (B). Then talk to Saturas and the quest will progress.
Ok, just to get this straight.
I have to join a faction, join the Ring (Which I don't know how to.) then, since I have the same problem as MoonDragon, I have to go next to saturas insert the ornament and the quest will continue? |
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:36 pm |
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elkston
High Emperor
Joined: 21 Sep 2002
Posts: 691
Location: North Carolina, USA |
quote:
Originally posted by Val
You can't finish the missing people quest until you get to the expansion world.
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True, but you can finish enough of it to join the Ring of Water before entering the add-on world.
The key to reaching this point is:
Spoiler:
Confronting/Killing Dexter in the bandit camp near Onar's farm
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:35 pm |
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Pladio
Magister of the Light
Joined: 15 Aug 2002
Posts: 379
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quote:
Originally posted by elkston
quote:
Originally posted by Val
You can't finish the missing people quest until you get to the expansion world.
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True, but you can finish enough of it to join the Ring of Water before entering the add-on world.
The key to reaching this point is:
Spoiler:
Confronting/Killing Dexter in the bandit camp near Onar's farm
So I have to do what's written in your spoiler to continue? |
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:02 pm |
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VPeric
Most Exalted Highlord
Joined: 13 Jul 2003
Posts: 418
Location: Serbia |
Yes. But,
Spoiler:
you'll have help, don't worry
. That one is pointless and you shouldn't read it. ;P
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:12 pm |
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Maylander
High Emperor
Joined: 22 Mar 2002
Posts: 1712
Location: Norway |
Hmm, I've had the bug, but I think it kept Lares from taking me to Onar, not the Ring of Water quest. I have experienced that he actually doesn't take you to Onar at all, but never that the game is messed up permanently. |
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:36 pm |
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Pladio
Magister of the Light
Joined: 15 Aug 2002
Posts: 379
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I think the problem is that I gave him the ornament and found a replacement for him. But I had asked him to take me to Onar's farm and now he refuses to take me to the mages. So he doesn't give the ornament to them and the mages can't give me the following quest... I'll try what MoonDragon said after my exams. |
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:41 pm |
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Rithe
Head Merchant
Joined: 27 Nov 2002
Posts: 51
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I have the same problem. Before I joined any group, I had 2 options for traveling with Lares: Onar and Water Mages. I had to get a replacement for him before he would take me anywhere at all. I had him take me to Onar. I went through, joined the Militia, and then the Ring of Water. Then I wanted to go to the Water Mages, per my instructions from Vatras. But I only have the option to train with Lares as well. This seems to be a common problem...
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Rithe
Head Merchant
Joined: 27 Nov 2002
Posts: 51
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Interesting... After starting over, I saved the game right before going anywhere with Lares. I had him take me to Onar, and then went to see if he could take me to the Water Mages, but the option is gone. It seems that this is a onetime thing. Either the Water Mages, or Onar.
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Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:17 pm |
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Dajjer
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 10 Jul 2005
Posts: 49
Location: Los Angeles area |
Funny but I would never have this problem becasue I've never had Lares escort me to the Farm. But since I have no idea where the Water Mages reside, I would have to ask him to take me there. |
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Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:15 pm |
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Maylander
High Emperor
Joined: 22 Mar 2002
Posts: 1712
Location: Norway |
Strange, I recall him taking me to both places in my first NotR game. I would really like someone to nail down the exact trigger behind the bug, so we could all just avoid it. |
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:54 am |
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Pladio
Magister of the Light
Joined: 15 Aug 2002
Posts: 379
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quote:
Originally posted by Maylander
Strange, I recall him taking me to both places in my first NotR game. I would really like someone to nail down the exact trigger behind the bug, so we could all just avoid it.
I would like that too, but I have no idea how to find out... |
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:00 am |
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Sem
Solid as a Rock
Joined: 01 Mar 2004
Posts: 3386
Location: at the Dot |
quote:
Originally posted by Pladio
I think the problem is that I gave him the ornament and found a replacement for him. But I had asked him to take me to Onar's farm and now he refuses to take me to the mages. So he doesn't give the ornament to them and the mages can't give me the following quest... I'll try what MoonDragon said after my exams.
When you ask him to take you to Onar's farm, he won't take you to the mages nor to the Tavern after that. But I didn't know that he won't give the quest. Can't you ask the ornament back and go there yourself.
@Dajjer: When you do Tavern, Water Mages, Farm in that order. He will take you anywhere.
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:24 am |
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Pladio
Magister of the Light
Joined: 15 Aug 2002
Posts: 379
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quote:
Originally posted by Sem
quote:
Originally posted by Pladio
I think the problem is that I gave him the ornament and found a replacement for him. But I had asked him to take me to Onar's farm and now he refuses to take me to the mages. So he doesn't give the ornament to them and the mages can't give me the following quest... I'll try what MoonDragon said after my exams.
When you ask him to take you to Onar's farm, he won't take you to the mages nor to the Tavern after that. But I didn't know that he won't give the quest. Can't you ask the ornament back and go there yourself.
@Dajjer: When you do Tavern, Water Mages, Farm in that order. He will take you anywhere.
Wait, what do you mean. He never ever took me to Onar's Farm, only up to the tavern. I only have two options, Take me to the Water Mages and Take me to Onar's Farm (but he always stops at the Tavern)
No I can't ask for the ornament back, because the thing that's supposed to happen is that he takes me to the water mages and gives them the ornament... right? |
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