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bigkabuto
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G2 issues/things.
   

1-First of all i find it ridiculous that the game stutters like a madman especially in town, my pc

AMD XP 1800+
640 ram
Geforce3
newest nvidia drivers
dx9

2- the controls


What controls do you prefer? putting it to Gothic 2 controls or still using the Gothic 1 controls?

i'm not sure yet, however i do like it that you attack by just clicking, it sucks that the keys for "attack left/right" are done with different buttons and not just the mouse...if i put it to G1 controls, i just have to press left/right/up arrows and mouseclicks to fight...what do u prefer?
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Post Thu Jun 12, 2003 8:43 pm
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300% viewing distance is meant for 3 GHz machines. If you donīt want to lower it you have to live with the stuttering.

I prefer the old controls, but the new ones also work.
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Post Thu Jun 12, 2003 8:47 pm
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Well....that's the thing..viewing distance is at 200 and object fading is at 100.
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Post Thu Jun 12, 2003 8:52 pm
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Type
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in the status screen and check the frame rate. Should be somewhere between 15 and 20 in the harbour area.
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1. Make sure G2 is the only open program (press ctrl-alt-del).
2. Lower the view distance.
3. Defragment your HD.
4. Run a benchmark program and see if your score is close to comparable machines.
5. GF3 cards don't have hardware support for DX9; it won't help.
6. The newest nVidia drivers are generally best optimized for newer cards; you might get better performance with older drivers.
7. A new video card wouldn't hurt.
Post Thu Jun 12, 2003 9:37 pm
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bigkabuto
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Well...i have

Viewing distance : 100
Object fading : 100

Walking trough town at night 10/12 fps
walking trough the exact same places during daytime, 15/20

So it's actually quite slow during night.

At harbor during daytime, 12/15 ....but see, i don't even have viewing distance at 200 but actually 100.....
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Post Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:01 pm
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What resolution?
Post Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:17 pm
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1. Turn off Antialiasing (to application-defined) and anisotopric filtering in your gfx card options.
2. Close all programs running in the background like Antivirus, ICQ, Microsoft Office stuff in your Autostart etc.
3. Run a tool like AdAware to make sure your system is not affected by Spyware.
4. Turn off Sky-effects in the game.
5. If you only have an on-board soundchip, turn off Music in the game.
Post Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:35 pm
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I never have anti-aliasing options enabled in any game, i do have a philips soundcard, onboard sound too, but i disabled it. i play at 1024 resolution....it's playable now though..view at 100, obj fade at 100
it's definitely good playable now.
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Post Thu Jun 12, 2003 11:18 pm
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Thats weired, i have the object and view distance at 200 and i have it at 1024 and it runs perfect, no slowdown at all apart from when i first load it up.

I have 1.4ghz
512mb RAM
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Post Thu Jun 12, 2003 11:35 pm
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The only two bottlenecks should be the town and Lobardīs farm. Everywhere else you should get 40+ fps. I would increase the viewing distance and only lower it when youīre in the critical areas. Did you notice the F1-F4 short cuts?
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I have problems too.
   

It seems 300% is not for 3ghz machines. I have 3ghz P4, 1gb RAM, Radeon 9700 pro. However in the town framerate drops to below 10 FPS, regardless of weather or time of day. Resolution has little effect, and changing view distance to 200% increases FPS but only by a little bit. Having view distance and object distance at 100% makes the game playable in this area. However I do not think it is reasonable to have to change view distance to this given my system. I have tried tweaking the .ini file but no success. Surely there must be something that can be done to optimise this, I find it hard to believe that on a top spec PC frame rates go below 10 FPS. I get about 15 FPS when looking out of the top of the wizard's tower at the start, but when walking in the wilderness outside I get about 35-40.
My system is fully cleaned of viruses, spyware, runs very few background tasks, DX9, windows XP, latest catalyst drivers, etc.
Post Fri Jun 13, 2003 12:02 am
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Same case as in gothic1, some people with exact same pcs either had good performance and others really bad...

And is it just me or does it sometimes have crashes back to the desktop? i had this happening 2 times in a row....is there a patch anounced for the english version that would fix this?

Oh and is there a good gothic2 site with downloads, such as skins, and other cool mod-things?
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Post Fri Jun 13, 2003 12:15 am
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Teatime,

I have a system exactly like yours (3.06 Ghz, 1 Gig RAM, Raedon 9700) and I expected that would be sufficient to run G2 at max everywhere. It will be interesting when I get my game next week to see if I have the same problem.

My only guess as to why it would be so slow despite your awesome RIG is that what you expect to be in memory actually is not. For example, all the scripts for the objects related to the city are not resident in memory,but need to be read in from the disk. This should happen once as you approach ( a one time hit), but as you stay in the city area for an extended time, I figured they would be cached and in RAM. If there is some bug related to this, it could manifest itself as a low framerate problem. When things slow down in the city do you hear your disk acess being hit repeatedely? That would cause it right there.

(BTW, this is 'tritone' from comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg)
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Post Fri Jun 13, 2003 12:21 am
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Make sure you have DirectX9 and the latest Radeon driver. Then scan your gothic.ini for the word 'Radeon' and make sure that thing you find is disabled.
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