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F@32
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Heat could have caused all this, but IL-2 is OK, Far Cry is OK, HL-2 is OK... GPU temps under full load go up to 60C. CPU also near that. Case temp is 40C. I have high quality 480Wt Antec NeoPower PSU with 120mm exhaust fan... Plus 2x80mm Panaflow on case exhaust (rear high). 5x80mm on case intake (1 on the side over GPU/CPU, 4 on the front bottom)

Darn flickering is back even with 70.41 I might build another PC just to play G2 with my Radeon 9700Pro

Gorath, did you fix the fan&cooler on your 6600GT? Mine drives me nuts. Thinking about water cooling CPU&GPU with Swiftech. Just add GPU DDR memory heat sinks and will be all set.

*********on another note***********

Which single player RPG you can recommend? I liked Morrowind, but not as much as G2. It's the ultimate fun. Wished it worked on NV40. Should have gone with X800.
Post Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:58 am
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No, I think itīs too risky. You can afford to lose warranty on a stable product like a Radeon 9800 or an old GeForce 4 Ti, but not on an unproven product like a GeForce 6600.
I replaced it with a Hercules Radeon 9700 Pro with an Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer. I can still hear it but itīs much better now.


Did you play KotOR? Itīs a good game. Bit of a slow start, but when you get your first light saber it really takes off.
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Post Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:06 am
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You mean water damage to GPU? I guess you're right to some extent. Wouldn't want to mess with $500 card...

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Yeah, I played the first KOTOR and it was fun at first. But I like real time combat of G2, which in my mind what Morrowind didn't implement well at all.
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No, I mean you lose the warranty on the card when you take off the original cooler - which has to be done for water cooling or if you want to put a silent fan on it.

There werenīt that many good RPGs in the last two years. Maybe try Bloodlines or get back to classics like Arx or DivDiv.
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Thanks for the tip Gorath I'm aware that it's not wise to attach water block on top of the existing heat sink and fan. I had Zalman passive cooler put on my 9700Pro. Could OC to 350/325 (no ddr sinks).

Just figured out what caused extreme flickering to come back - AGP Apperture Size. Upped it to 512 MB and it's not as often now.

I'll check the Bloodlines.

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Post Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:16 pm
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I'm having the same trouble with flickering textures on a 6800. I tried to install the 56.72 drivers as suggested but for some reason they won't work. I mean at all. I removed my old driver, ran the 56.72 one and it installed and told me to reboot but it just went back to the VGA that you get when you don't have any drivers loaded.

Can someone tell me what might be wrong?

Thanks. I have Win2000pro
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Maybe the 56.72 driver doesnīt support the 6800 chipset.

Thereīs still no solution to the texture flickering problem.
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Post Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:17 am
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quote:
Originally posted by Phil5000
I'm having the same trouble with flickering textures on a 6800. I tried to install the 56.72 drivers as suggested but for some reason they won't work. I mean at all. I removed my old driver, ran the 56.72 one and it installed and told me to reboot but it just went back to the VGA that you get when you don't have any drivers loaded.

Can someone tell me what might be wrong?

Thanks. I have Win2000pro


Phil5000, please read carefully and you will see that I wrote "56.72 of course doesn't support GF6 series". As you can tell from the Force Ware names, GF6XXX support first appeared in 6X.XX drivers. Gorath pointed out correctly that as of today there is no fix for Gothic 2 on NV40 hardware, meaning no good combination of OS+DX+Force Ware+3rd party tweak tool was found by people on this forum.

Somewhat workable solution is to install 66.93 or 70.41 and set AGP Aperture size to 256 or 512 MB (on my nForce2 400 Ultra and KT800Pro 512 MB works better).

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Post Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:54 am
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Yes, the problems are still unsolved. There are a few people without texture flickering but this seems to be random.
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Gothic II experiment in 64 bit
   

Just for kicks of it yesterday I installed Win XP Pro x64 RC2 beta. If anybody wants to go there, a word of caution: For some hardware it will be difficult at this point to find x64 compatible drivers. Also ton of todays apps have 16 bit installers, so you won't be able to even install those apps, since x64 dropped 16 bit support altogether. VIA has working KT800 Pro x64 beta drivers as well as nVidia 66.96 x64 beta. No drivers for my SB Audigy, so I had to enable on-board sound.

Everything seems to install OK. Installed 3DMark05 and ran it on the same hardware on Win2000Pro SP4 (5048) and WinXPProx64 RC2 (4910). Considering that all drivers are in beta there is surprisingly very little performance deterioration between the two. Of course under x64 3DMark ran in 32 bit compitability mode. 5048 is so low (I had 5500 with 2x512 DDR400 128bit) just because I had to RMA my main DDR400 memory kit and I plugged 2x256 single channel DDR266 for now. So CPU FSB is 200, but memory 133

And then I gave a shot to Gothic II. As you can probably guess - no go. Installed fine, but crashes upon launch...

Cheers,
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Post Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:21 pm
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seems fixed for me in 76.41
   

Hi, I was having flickering texture problems with my 6800GT. I have just installed the latest (unofficial) 76.41 forceware drivers (under Win2K) and they seem to have solved the problem for me..

Of course, your milage may vary, but at least there is one person (me) who used to have the problem and has it fixed with 76.41
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Thatīs great news! Youīre probably the first to get it 100% fixed.
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Re: seems fixed for me in 76.41
   

quote:
Originally posted by BazzaLB
Hi, I was having flickering texture problems with my 6800GT. I have just installed the latest (unofficial) 76.41 forceware drivers (under Win2K) and they seem to have solved the problem for me..

Of course, your milage may vary, but at least there is one person (me) who used to have the problem and has it fixed with 76.41


Amen! Not 100% euphoric, but will try it tonight. Hopefully it will work for me too.
Post Tue Apr 12, 2005 5:59 pm
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Re: seems fixed for me in 76.41
   

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quote:
Originally posted by BazzaLB
Hi, I was having flickering texture problems with my 6800GT. I have just installed the latest (unofficial) 76.41 forceware drivers (under Win2K) and they seem to have solved the problem for me..

Of course, your milage may vary, but at least there is one person (me) who used to have the problem and has it fixed with 76.41


Amen! Not 100% euphoric, but will try it tonight. Hopefully it will work for me too.


Gorath and everybody else, let's thank BezzaLB for 76.41 suggestion because it's working! I'm flicker free in G2!!! 3 months waiting and playing Morrowind is over. Started from scratch, screw the saves! Picture is awesome on 6800Ultra.
Post Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:06 pm
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I just have install Gothic 2 and will play it again.
And got the same problem to.

And i have a GeForce 4 TI4800 SE, and 71.89 Drivers + DX 9.0c on Windows 2000 SP4.
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