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Brummbar
Village Dweller
Joined: 09 Feb 2002
Posts: 11
Location: United States |
| Gothic and ATI Radeon 9700 |
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Hello all.
I'm having a bit of a problem with my new Radeon 9700 and Gothic. Objects in the game, like rocks,trees,doors,bridges,people etc flicker when moving. Kinda like the effect in some games when you move your mouse pointer over an item and it highlights. Sometimes items just flicker once or at an intense rate and only when my char is moving. 
I've tried many different configurations with no luck. ATI said they will be looking into the problem some time but have no idea what it is. I've tried three different operating systems, WinME,Win2k,and WinXP and the official and leaked drivers. No problems at all on my GeForce 3. 
Any ideas or help is appreciated. 
*edit* Forgot to list my system specs.
P4a 2ghz
Asus P4T-E motherboard (1007 bios)
1024megs of Samsung 800mhz ECC Rambus
Sound Blaster Audigy Plat
LinkSys 10/100 Ethernet Card
Sony 52x CD-ROM
Yammaha 24x10x42 CD-RW
WD 100gig 7200rpm HDD
Maxtor 40gig 7200rpm HDD
ATI Radeon 9700 pro (with drivers on CD)
Antec 400watt power supply
Windows XP Home (SP#1) |
Wed Sep 11, 2002 5:31 am |
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[PB]Nico
Keeper of the Bugs
Joined: 15 Jul 2001
Posts: 237
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Have a look at Radeonator 2.0 Beta 2 (usage at your own risk).
* enable table fog
* disable w-buffer / force z-buffer
* increase z-buffer depth
* disable Hierarchical Z and Fast Z Clear
* play around with Alpha-Blending/Dithering
- nico
Last edited by [PB]Nico on Wed Sep 11, 2002 9:23 am; edited 2 times in total |
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Wed Sep 11, 2002 8:57 am |
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Brummbar
Village Dweller
Joined: 09 Feb 2002
Posts: 11
Location: United States |
Thank you for the response, NicoDE.
I found out that the Radeon 9700 actually doesn't support W buffer. I can't find an option for Z Buffer,Alpha,and fog table. I might have to wait for new drivers or a tweak program.
Thank you for the info. |
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Wed Sep 11, 2002 9:13 am |
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[PB]Nico
Keeper of the Bugs
Joined: 15 Jul 2001
Posts: 237
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I edited my last posting. |
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Wed Sep 11, 2002 9:22 am |
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Brummbar
Village Dweller
Joined: 09 Feb 2002
Posts: 11
Location: United States |
Thank you for the link to the program. Looks like it's the drivers that are the problem most likely. Changing the settings in the tweak program didn't change anything in Gothic. Flickering is still there.
Hopefully this gets fixed before Gothic 2 comes out.  |
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Wed Sep 11, 2002 10:09 am |
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ZappasGhost
Village Dweller
Joined: 29 Dec 2001
Posts: 7
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Hi .
Same Problem here.
Runs fine and smooth like silk on this damn cool Radeon , but unfortunately some Objects are flickering.
Radeon9700 Pro (Treiber 6.13.10.6178)
WinXP+SP1
P4/2.4 Intel 845 AGPSet BIOS for 8IRXP F7
SB Audigy
ZappasGhost
Germany , Berlin |
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 8:55 pm |
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Xelis
High Emperor
Joined: 24 Jul 2002
Posts: 523
Location: Seattle, Washington |
It must be that ATI Radeon 9700 isn't supported... 
No, no it isn't. I don't remember seeing it on PB's listing. You'll have to check with someone who actually knows how to explain this, cos I know what to do, but I couldn't explain it to you worth...well never mind. 
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"Don't you call me a mindless philosipher, you old weight lob of grease."
~C-3PO Human/Cyborg Relations |
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 11:06 pm |
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Boogie
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 04 Jan 2002
Posts: 34
Location: Wilmington, NC |
Xelis, you have a possible soultion? Could you at least give us some kind of clue as to what to do? Even if you cant explain it perfectly, you might be able to explain enough to point us in the right direction. Any help for us 9700 users would be much appreciated....the game just isnt the same when it looks like there are strobe lights in the trees..... |
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Wed Oct 23, 2002 1:58 am |
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[PB]Nico
Keeper of the Bugs
Joined: 15 Jul 2001
Posts: 237
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Unfortunately there is no workaround for that problem, sorry.
The current driver for the ATI Radeon 9700 seems to have a problem with different ambient lights for objects in one scene.
(the workaround would be to flush the scene every time if ambient light is changing - which would be deadly for performance if AA is enabled)
- nico |
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Sat Nov 02, 2002 3:42 am |
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SwitchBlade
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 04 Oct 2002
Posts: 26
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I had a problem like that in morrowind with radeon 8500. The solution there was to disable w fog. Don't know if that applies to radeon 9700. |
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Thu Nov 07, 2002 8:36 pm |
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Llama
High Emperor
Joined: 11 Oct 2001
Posts: 509
Location: Earth |
Don't take this the wrong way, but...
I wouldn't hold your breath on getting a fix from ATi. They've known about that issue since the Catalyst drivers were first introduced. It's there on every ATi card. Welcome to the world of ATi and their horrible driver releases. Don't worry, they'll fix one problem per release, but create three more as well.
If you bought the 9700 somewhere that accepts returns, then take advantage of it and hold off for the NV30. |
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Thu Nov 07, 2002 9:48 pm |
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Merz
Protector of the Realm
Joined: 22 Oct 2002
Posts: 260
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Don't know if it even applies to this problem, but according to this thread at rage3d someone found a fix to a so-called stuttering bug. Maybe its the same flaw that manifests itself by flickering in Gothic?
Good luck.
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Thu Nov 07, 2002 9:53 pm |
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Daedalus
High Emperor
Joined: 04 Jan 2002
Posts: 2516
Location: Estonia |
that problem has also ati rage radeon 9000  |
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Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:02 pm |
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