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Darrius Cole
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Joined: 04 May 2004
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About 30 seconds ago, I heard a radio commercial that said that if a child is under 4' 9" (4 feet and 9 inches/1 and one-half meters) tall that they need a booster seat when they ride in a car. 4 foot 9 nine!!!? Isn't that a little tall for a booster seat? I think we may be trying too hard to protect everybody. I know every life is precious, but a certain amount of people are going to die prematurely anyway, it is unavoidable. At some point you have to let people fend for themselves.
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:26 pm |
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piln
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Joined: 22 May 2003
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What about adults under 4'9"?  |
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:39 am |
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Danicek
The Old One
Joined: 15 Dec 2001
Posts: 5922
Location: Czech Republic |
There is nearly same law here.
They even tried to force adults smaller than 150 cm to use special seats. My wife is just 151 cm tall :].
I believe law should enforce only such things that are necessary to protect people around us (not driving with alcohol). If someone wants to kill him/herself... But children, well that is a special problem. |
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:22 am |
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maic_ro
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Joined: 28 May 2004
Posts: 113
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There are a lot of this overprotected rules going around ....we are so focus on the small things that we do not see the big picture anymore
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:07 am |
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Fez
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Nice pun.
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:42 am |
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Danicek
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Location: Czech Republic |
Overprotection: and what about this rule: nobody can smoke in pub. Do you think this one is also overprotection or it's not? |
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:24 am |
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titus
Survivor of Hell
Joined: 03 Aug 2003
Posts: 778
Location: Standing at the Hell mouth |
well it is euther that one or admit to smoke in a pub everywhere. because restraining a smoking section in a pub is usually just achieved by a few stickers. and the stickers really keep the smoke in the smoking area 
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:30 am |
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Darrius Cole
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quote:
By Danicek
Overprotection: and what about this rule: nobody can smoke in pub. Do you think this one is also overprotection or it's not?
I don't think that is over-protection. Smokers are addicted and will smoke in crowded spaces as small as cars with people who are severly allergic to cigarette smoke, as I am. I think this rule is needed to keep people from choking on second hand smoke in every restaurant they go in.
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If any of you smoke, please stop. My mother smoked for almost 30 years. She didn't develop cancer, but the smoke almost destroyed her lungs and now she can't perform a task as simple as taking out the trash without running out of breath. There is not much you can do if you can't breath.
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:05 pm |
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titus
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I do agree with you that it should be totally forbidden at public places. not only for the health but out of respect for your fellow citizens or whatever the people around you are, even if they smoke. They don't need to be forced to smoke.
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:09 pm |
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Danicek
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Location: Czech Republic |
quote:
Originally posted by titus
I do agree with you that it should be totally forbidden at public places. not only for the health but out of respect for your fellow citizens or whatever the people around you are, even if they smoke. They don't need to be forced to smoke.
Yes, but how to define public places. I believe they shouldn't allow people to smoke at airport, in bus... But pub is not normal public place. We have normal pubs and pubs where is not allowed to smoke (just decission of an owner). And my decission is where to go. |
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Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:38 am |
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titus
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well not public places: your own home and car, for the rest I would consider almost everyhting a public place
the only public place you can smoke is out in the open so if you are not in a bus metro or a building. But hey that's just my opinion
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Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:13 pm |
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Chekote
Where’s my Banana?!?!
Joined: 08 Mar 2002
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@ Danicek:
I would say that smoking in any area where another member of the public has a right to use the amenities without breathing deadly smoke should be illegal.
Pubs are most definately included in that group. Pub is an abbreviation of "Public House" after all.
Only places I think smoking should be allowed are: In your own home, in someone elses home with their permission, in your car, in someone elses car with their permission, and in a VERY open area, such as a sidewalk etc. But *not* a crowded sidewalk as thats inconciderate.
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Darrius Cole
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I agree with Chekote for the most part. This is how I see it: Any place where the owner can say smoking is OK or smoking is banned should go with the decision of the owner. Any publically owned place should ban smoking except for designated smoking areas, as should any privately owned place where there is no clear owner to make a decision; for example, a large office building that is owned by many different shareholders.
I do agree that restrictions should exist on some places out in the open. I personally don't think smoking should be restricted on a crowded sidewalk outside as long as the smoke is not overwhelming and the traffic is moving. Still, I think smoking should be restricted in places such as outside stadiums. I wouldn't want tickets to a football game where the people on both sides of me are smoking, even though the seats are outside.
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Tue Dec 07, 2004 3:55 pm |
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xSamhainx
Paws of Doom
Joined: 11 Sep 2002
Posts: 2192
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A wise man once said, "Having a smoking section in a restaraunt is like having a peeing section in a pool." Anyone smoking anything, indoors, is going to stink the place up, even if the windows are wide open.
But I think it should be up to private business owners themselves whether they allow smoking, not a bunch of non-smokers. Now in truly "public places", goverment buildings like courthouses, city halls, police stations, or even state parks, I've got no problem with smoking restrictions. I think that maybe having a law where private business owners can choose to either have no smoking at all, or no restrictions whatesoever on smoking, one or the other woulld be a better way to go. Having a "no smoking section" anywhere indoors is just idiotic IMHO, either allow it or dont. But Im pretty leery of "The Man making blanket restrictions on private business owners over the use of a legal product in their place of business, by adults. If you go into a bar, guess what, there's people in there who smoke when they drink. The owner has no problem with it, he even sells smokes there. If you dont like it, you dont have to go there, go somewhere else. If the owner notices you and your friends not showing up because of the smoke you dislike, he very well may come to see things your way.
I dont like the sound of screaming and crying children any more than I like the smell of a Marlboro, but I just feel strange about lobbying congress to have children kept out of stores ='.'=
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