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oozle
Keeper of the Gates
Joined: 18 Dec 2001
Posts: 112
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| Gothic 2 is awesome in every respect but voice acting - Why? |
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Gothic 2 is easily one of the best games I've ever played. However, it is perfect in almost every respect except voice acting. Why did they hire B-grade English voice actors, when the German voice acting is so good?
I just wish they put more effort into voice acting, which adds so much to the immersion of the game.
Very few games have top quality voice acting (only ones i can think of are Delta Force BHD, Warcraft III)
Nearly all RPG's are ruined by poor voice acting. I just don't get it. The musical score is so good, everything is spot on, except voice acting. Why Why Why???? |
Wed Jun 25, 2003 1:07 pm |
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Shrapnel
Rocket Scientist
Joined: 03 Jan 2002
Posts: 1325
Location: Newark, NJ |
Its not so much the acting is bad is more like every 3rd-4th person you talk to sounds like Xardas, Diego or Lord Andre (or versions thereof).
They say they used 12 people, feels more like 5 people lowering their voices lol |
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 1:34 pm |
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elkston
High Emperor
Joined: 21 Sep 2002
Posts: 691
Location: North Carolina, USA |
Overall, I'd say the quality of the voice acting varies. At its best, it is good and at its worst it is somewhat sloppy. The voice of the hero seems to be good throughout but Shrapnel is right when he says they could have had just a few more actors. Xardas and Lord Hagen seem to be everywhere! I understand the realities of budgeting a game like this and its normal for voice actors to perfrom more than one voice, but just 1 additional one in the mix would have addded a lot.
It is still a fantastic game so far (in ch. 4) and the voice acting isn't bad enough that it distracts from the expereince.
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 2:05 pm |
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AnimalMother
Head Merchant
Joined: 08 Dec 2002
Posts: 56
Location: UK |
One other game that had good voice acting, The thief series. I thought the voicews in that were excellent. 
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 2:22 pm |
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Hagen
Counselor of the King
Joined: 18 Jun 2003
Posts: 350
Location: England |
hmmm, I semi agree, some of its bad, there a certainly farmer that sounds absolutely stupid! lol, but most of its ok...
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 6:08 pm |
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scooter
Village Dweller
Joined: 21 Jun 2003
Posts: 7
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I never get tired of hearing that
"You Aint gettin in here my boy!" |
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 10:05 pm |
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olaf73
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Posts: 30
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I cant stand Lee's voice, and that actor voices a lot of characters also.
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 11:45 pm |
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the mighty stamar
High Emperor
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Posts: 602
Location: arcata ca, humboldt county |
Heh the worst example of this is one of the farm girls is voiced by one of the male actors trying to sound female.... sort of. It really stands out as bad to me. Its a farm girl near the land owner, if anyone wants to find her
Ill have to check out her name next time im in that area. |
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:55 am |
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Irf
High Emperor
Joined: 18 Jul 2002
Posts: 1032
Location: England |
Well, voice acting = expensive, and i guess rpg's tend to have rubbish voice actors because of their settings, Gothic 2 is set in medievil times, they hired american voice actors, but america didnt exist back then (well, no english speakers were there) so obviously the voices will not fit, they should ahve hired british voice actors, IMO it would have sounded alot better. It would have been good if they didnt have the same actor for both a lead role and citizens/farmers. And i agree lee, and a few other lead characters have terrible voices
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 2:16 am |
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FetishFool
High Emperor
Joined: 15 Sep 2001
Posts: 484
Location: Toronto, Ontario |
Nothing regarding the english voice acting was done right.
The translaters used British slang in the translations. Then Americans, that have never used words like "Fancy" and "Chap" before, were told to give a personality to the script.
What ended up happening was a lot of on-the-fly editing, which left many sentences incoherent. It also seems like entire dialogues were missing.
Gothic 1 had flawless voice acting and a beautiful script. |
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 3:29 am |
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Detori
Head Merchant
Joined: 29 Nov 2002
Posts: 69
Location: Hungary |
quote:
Originally posted by FetishFool
What ended up happening was a lot of on-the-fly editing, which left many sentences incoherent. It also seems like entire dialogues were missing.
I also felt the same, I am slightly irritated by 'pubs' being called 'taverns' and some other inconsistencies... 
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 10:06 am |
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Dhruin
Stranger In A Strange Land
Joined: 20 May 2002
Posts: 1825
Location: Sydney, Australia |
I don't tihnk I can agree that nothing is right with the voice acting in G2 and Gothic is perfect. The quality of voice acting in G2 does vary and there is a little too much repetition but overall it's quite satisfactory; apart from the repetition it's not that different to Gothic.
Bear in mind very few RPG's have full voice for every line; it's really quite ambitious for a small developer. |
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 10:07 am |
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olaf73
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Posts: 30
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I think the voice acting is better in G2 than G1, at least in the English versions. The voices are the same in many cases, but they seem to be more familiar with their lines and/or have more experience in reading them.
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:36 pm |
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FetishFool
High Emperor
Joined: 15 Sep 2001
Posts: 484
Location: Toronto, Ontario |
The voice acting was satisfactory. It'd still be satisfactory if only one guy and one girl did all the voice acting.
Apart from the not-so-great script, emotions weren't always portrayed.
If it wasn't for the emotes (eg: (angrily), (annoyed), (grumpy) ) that are throughout the subtitles, you'd never guess the character was angry, or annoyed through many of the conversations. Grumpy was depicted with a throat-clearing sound at the beginning of the sentence, most of the time.
But of course, most players have subtitles off. So they wouldn't have noticed any change in mood.
What makes Gothic so special is it's immersive dialogue. The storyline is pretty straight-forward, and it's not as open ended as other RPGs.
The voice acting needs to be something more than just satisfactory. |
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Thu Jun 26, 2003 7:11 pm |
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Dez
King of the Realms
Joined: 08 Jan 2003
Posts: 455
Location: Fortress of Tell Halaf |
I decided not to put spoilers here..afterall this is spoirless discussion..so that text of mine was a bit too much spoiler heavy 
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