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Neo_Genesis
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Location: The Netherlands |
i have a new game now, that requires a Geforce III or higher.
i have a Geforce 2 MX/MX 400. does anyone know were i can get a (cheap) Geforce III or higher?
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Dhruin
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GF3s haven't been made in a while so I guess your only option is to hit Ebay. A GF3 is pretty light on grunt these days, so you might want to consider a new card so it can play the latest titles.
The cheapest option for decent card in Aus is a Geforce 4 Ti 4200 but virtually anything new will do the job for you except a Geforce 4 MX (eg., MX440 / MX440se) - it has the same limitations as your current card. The more you pay, the powerful it's likely to be. 
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Neo_Genesis
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Location: The Netherlands |
PoP: the sands of time... I already saw a lot at my friend's home (on the PS2) but i got it anyway.
when checking Ebay, i saw a MSI Geforce 5 FX5200-T128 MB for €79,95. this is what it has:
CineFX Shading Architecture
• Support for DX 9.0 Pixel/Vertex Shader 2.0+.
• Very long pixel programs up to 1024 instructions.
• Very long vertex programs with up to 256 static instructions and up to 65536 instructions
executed before termination.
• Looping and subroutines with up to 256 loops per vertex program.
• Subroutines in shader programs.
• Dynamic flow control.
• Conditional write masking.
• Conditional execution.
• Procedural shading.
• Full instruction set for vertex and pixel programs.
• Z-correct bump-mapping.
• Hardware-accelerated shadow effects with shadow buffers.
• Two-sided stencil.
• Programmable matrix palette skinning.
• Keyframe animation.
• Custom lens effects: fish eye, wide angle, fresnel effects, water refraction.
High-Performance, High-Precision, 3D Rendering Engine
• 4 pixels per clock rendering engine.
• 128-bit, studio-quality floating point precision through the entire graphics pipeline.
• Native support for 128-bit floating point, 64-bit floating point and 32-bit integer rendering
modes.
• Up to 16 textures per pass.
• Support for sRGB texture format for gamma textures.
• DirectX and S3TC texture compression.
High-Performance 2D Rendering Engine
• Optimized for 32-, 24-, 16-, 15- and 8-bpp modes.
• True-color, 64x64 hardware cursor with alpha.
• Multi-buffering (double, triple or quad) for smooth animation and video playback.
Advanced Display Pipeline with Full nView Capabilities
• Dual, 400MHz RAMDACs for display resolutions up to and including 2048x1536@85Hz.
• Integrated NTSC/PAL TV encoder support resolutions up to 1024x768 without the need for
panning with built-in Macrovision copy protection.
• Video Mixing Renderer (VMR) supports multiple video windows with full quality and features
in each window.
Digital Vibrance control (DVC) 3.0
• DVC color controls.
• DVC image sharpening controls
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XeroX
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Joined: 13 Dec 2001
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Location: The Netherlands |
For that price i hope it is a new one.
This i found at www.informatique.nl ( a pc store in Bergschenhoek near Rotterdam)
Asus V9520 Geforce FX 5200 Magic, 128Mb, TVout for ?77
Asus V9520 Geforce FX 5200, 128Mb, DVI, TVout for ?96
Asus V9520 Geforce FX 5200, 256Mb, DVI, TVout for ?119
Asus V9520 VideoSuite Geforce FX 5200,128Mb,2xDVI for ?125
Creative 3D Blaster GF FX5200, 128Mb, Retail for ?86
Hercules 3D Prophet 9200, 128Mb DDR, DualD, TVout for ?95
Sapphire Radeon 9200 Atlantis, 128Mb DDR,DVI,TVout for ?90
(might give some people with better knowledge the dutch price range)
If you can find them for those prices there, then you can find even some cheaper ones.
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goshuto
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If all you want to do is get a DirectX 8.x compliant card (that is, you're not looking for substantial gains in performance), then a Geforce FX5200 or Radeon 9200 will do. An older (yet faster) Geforce 4 Ti4200 will serve as well, if you can find it cheap (nVidia stopped produced it, so prices on that card seem to be going up).
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TheMadGamer
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Joined: 03 May 2002
Posts: 487
Location: Southern California |
If you want a Geforce III consider getting a GeForce IV mx, they're still around and about the same as a GeForce III in terms of capabiilties.
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Gorath
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quote:
Originally posted by Neptiofpovar
If you want a Geforce III consider getting a GeForce IV mx, they're still around and about the same as a GeForce III in terms of capabiilties.
Completely wrong. Compare Dhruin´s post above. A GeForce 4 MX is nothing more than an overclocked GeForce 2 MX. It´s still a DirectX7 card.
A GeForce FX 5200 is also crappy. It´s NVidia´s new low end card.
IMO the best options are buying a GeForce 4 Ti from ebay for 50-80$ or buying a new card for about 150$. Details on chip and brand will have to be examined. The cheaper choice has better backwards compatibility, the newer cards are faster and support DirectX9.
Either choice will give you a significant boost since your current card is slow as a snail.
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Neo_Genesis
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quote:
Originally posted by Gorath
Either choice will give you a significant boost since your current card is slow as a snail.
why do you think i started this topic
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goshuto
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quote:
Originally posted by Gorath
A GeForce FX 5200 is also crappy. It´s NVidia´s new low end card.
Yet it's still faster than the one he has right now.  Pretty much any new card he buys right now will be faster than that, even a Radeon 9200SE. How much faster, though, is determined by the amount he's willing to spend.
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Neo_Genesis
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i think i'm gonna buy the Club3D ATI Radeon 9200 256 DDR
it costs 94 euros.
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goshuto
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A couple remarks: don't expect to play the latest games at 1024x768x32 with all the details on with that card. Second, it's DirectX 8,1 compliant, not DirectX 9.0. What this means is that it still has the pixel shaders that PoP needs, but it won't, for example, be able to use some of the features of HL2 that are DirectX9 specific. The FX5200 is DirectX 9 compliant, but it's so slow at it that it's practically useless.
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Gorath
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quote:
Originally posted by Neo_Genesis
i think i'm gonna buy the Club3D ATI Radeon 9200 256 DDR
it costs 94 euros.
That card is a relabeled Radeon 8500. It´s clearly slower than a GeForce 4 Ti.
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goshuto
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quote:
Originally posted by Gorath
That card is a relabeled Radeon 8500. It´s clearly slower than a GeForce 4 Ti.
The Radeon 8500 was relabelled as the Radeon 9100. The 9200 is actually a slower version. 
But, if he can't find a GF4, the 9200 is still faster than a GF2MX. 
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Sat Dec 27, 2003 9:39 pm |
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Dhruin
Stranger In A Strange Land
Joined: 20 May 2002
Posts: 1825
Location: Sydney, Australia |
Don't buy a 256Mb card if the same money will buy you a 128Mb card with as faster GPU - you simply won't see an advantage. GF4 Ti 4200 / 4800se are still fairly common down here and dirt cheap...but perhaps we're getting used to dump old stock. I'm not a fan of the FX 5600 but you should be able to find a cheap model for just a little more (based on our prices and converting to euros). It's slower than a GF4 Ti but it's a current model and faster than the 9200.
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