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I dont see why the developers couldnt put an option into the game to choose what kind of control method you want to use? Personally, I think the Gothic controls were good, but maybe they could make it even better. |
Thu Jun 06, 2002 2:37 am |
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Moonslash
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At least they allow you to create custom keys for different functions.
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Thu Jun 06, 2002 2:39 am |
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Daedalus
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Well in one way it is good that they change the controls cos those people who download the demo and trying to play the game dont know how to pick up things or do some attacking or whatever shjit . the control changing will sure get some more Game Buyers but in other way all those people who allready know how to control all shjit will be pretty hard and sad cos those controls make Gothic II allready a different game. Better or worse |
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Thu Jun 06, 2002 8:14 pm |
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[PB]Nico
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quote:
Originally posted by Anonymous
I dont see why the developers couldnt put an option into the game to choose what kind of control method you want to use? Personally, I think the Gothic controls were good, but maybe they could make it even better.
Many (more important) things to do. If there is time to re-implement the old scheme _safely_ it will be done.
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Thu Jun 06, 2002 8:35 pm |
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There was never anything bad about the controls in Gothic. It was the documentation that was bad. |
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Thu Jun 06, 2002 11:30 pm |
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[PB]Nico
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Agree,
but even if the old controls are consistent, good for alternate periphery, and (ok you got the point)... it takes too long for an new player (who are known to never ever reading the docs) to figure it out.
The key question is: why you have to press [Action+Forward] if there is only one action possible -- so why not simply [Action].
One side effect are better configurable controls (you can map mouse/joy/pad buttons yourself now).
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Thu Jun 06, 2002 11:45 pm |
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Moonslash
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quote:
Originally posted by NicoDE
The key question is: why you have to press [Action+Forward] if there is only one action possible -- so why not simply [Action].
I think the reason to this is that The developer wants the player to make sure that the proper target is selected before taking actions, preventing errors. This [Action+Forward] has an advantage though. Think about the time when you try to get the Orcish Figure in G1. Have the telekinesis spell ready. Highlight the figure using the action key. Hold it, and you can eventually back away from it without the name disappearing. This way you can get the item with the maximum spell range. If there is only the action key, you won't be able to do that.
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Fri Jun 07, 2002 12:15 am |
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[PB]Nico
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That's right. My question is related to the general movement/usage.
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Fri Jun 07, 2002 7:07 am |
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Yech! When I started Gothic I had a lot of problems with the controls. I'm from a die hard Quake, Counter Strike FPS background.
It took some time... but I'm kinda' used to it now and the game becomes fun fun fun after that! I can see why Gothic fans get distraught over change. But I think it's a good idea to be able to continue moving while swinging your weapon or parrying. Would have saved me getting whacked many a time.
I also hope staffing can be smoother (when you're not armed). In Gothic it looks like you lost a leg. Also... what about speeding up time so running from one end to another doesn't take as long. Speed potions tend to run out. |
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Fri Jun 07, 2002 1:03 pm |
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Fx
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Originally posted by sauron38
I'm going to like being able to block, but I want to see a game that comes out with a small plastic sword hilt and infrared sensors on it. (You know where I'm going) You will be able to use the sword to control your character. 
Gothic it's not Jedi Knight! So as far as I know, they will not spoil this game such shit like plastic sword etc...  |
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Fri Jun 07, 2002 1:54 pm |
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Gig
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You can use a number of transformation scrolls for travel. Bloodfly is my favorite, it's super fast, you can go places you aren't supposed to be without getting attacked and it lasts until you end it.
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Fri Jun 07, 2002 1:56 pm |
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Daedalus
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heh Gothic I controls are all fine you just need to learn at the beginning to use them |
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Fri Jun 07, 2002 6:42 pm |
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Yog Sothoth
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quote:
Originally posted by Daedalus
heh Gothic I controls are all fine you just need to learn at the beginning to use them
Right, never underestimate the power of Githic 1 controls! 
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Fri Jun 07, 2002 6:45 pm |
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Daedalus
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ya true |
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Fri Jun 07, 2002 6:54 pm |
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sauron38
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quote:
Originally posted by Fx
Gothic it's not Jedi Knight! So as far as I know, they will not spoil this game such shit like plastic sword etc...
Well, I wouldn't like it in Gothic II, but it would be cool if well implemented into a Star Wars game.
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