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| Which is better: NWN, or ToEE? |
| Nevewinter Nights |
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66% |
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| Greyhawk: Temple of Elemental Evil |
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16% |
[ 1 ] |
| They're about the same. |
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16% |
[ 1 ] |
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MageofFire
Griller of Molerats
Joined: 03 Oct 2003
Posts: 1594
Location: Monastery of Innos |
| Would ToEE appeal to NWN fans? |
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Neverwinter Nights is my favorite game. Period. But I was recently considering getting ToEE. I won't get it immediately, should I decide to(I'm living on a frugal budget, and HAVE to get Gothic 2 and HotU), but it looks pretty good, and has recieved good reviews, but I was wondering: Would a NWN fan such as myself find enjoyment in ToEE? Is it as good? The main complaints I've heard about the game is that it's "one big huge dungeon crawl." I wouldn't mind that part too much, having played plenty some D&D and enjoyed it, but I wouldn't like to be trapped in some dungeon until the end of the game. I would like to have access to other places as well. And how is the atmosphere and ambience in the game? Your thoughts?
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Val
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Joined: 18 Feb 2002
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Location: Utah, USA |
NWN - Loved it, the multiplayer that is. I never finished the single-player campaign. It dragged.
ToEE - Loved it. Hack and slash goodness like NWN in some aspects, but it knew when to quit. There are other spots to explore besides the Temple, but it tends to be a short game.
If your looking for the longevity of NWN, you won't find it with ToEE. But it's a fun little romp none-the-less.
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corwin
On the Razorblade of Life
Joined: 10 Jun 2002
Posts: 8376
Location: Australia |
Buy Gothic 2, and HOU. Ask someone to give you ToEE as a present, or get it when it drops to a bargain price. It's OK, but not great.
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Namirrha
Noble Knight
Joined: 03 May 2002
Posts: 218
Location: Utah County, Utah. |
Most of the reviews I've read on ToEE have either lauded it for its combat and faithfulness to D&D rules or criticized it for abysmal dialogue, story, questionable design decisions (no item descriptions?), and bugs. I discovered PC Gamer UK gave it a 57%. Ouch. Nevertheless, you might want to give it a try for the combat. I bought Gothic 2 over ToEE. So far, I have not been disappointed.
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EverythingXen
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Joined: 01 Feb 2002
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Apples and oranges.
NWN is great, as Val said, for the multiplayer and the unlimited replay value based on a strong user mod community. It is weaker on the actual rules of D&D than TOEE... but any bend they made in the rules was to enhance fun.
TOEE is great for the combat and for its faithful translation of the pen and paper module it was based on. Granted, the pen and paper module had far less roleplaying and a weaker story than TOEE in CRPG format and a much higher hack factor... but Troika couldn't get it perfect without alienating even more players.
Yes, the module has that little story and roleplaying.
Single player, TOEE is very fun for a turn based party oriented tactical combat CRPG.
Multiplayer, NWN is very fun for a real time solo based click fest CRPG.
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the mighty stamar
High Emperor
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Posts: 602
Location: arcata ca, humboldt county |
They are different.
I appreciate the combat engine and graphics and graphic art of TOEE more.
But I actually enjoyed the NWN OC more than TOEE. It has more length and content. And its not particularly long or interesting itself.
Whats worse.... TOEE has little to no replay value.
30 or more d and d modules have been made into nwn downloads. And while they are all very bad.... a few of them are probably better than TOEE as well.
There may be fan made modules for TOEE and I would be very interested in trying them out. But there will be a few at most Im sure, it doesnt come with edditting tools.
Anyhow this isnt an either or.
You already have NWN and will you like TOEE a lot? You may, but you wont be happy with your dollar per entertainment hour like NWN.
Gothic 2 is much much better than both of these games in my scale. |
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Dhruin
Stranger In A Strange Land
Joined: 20 May 2002
Posts: 1825
Location: Sydney, Australia |
I think there's quite a bit of replay value, from different opening vignettes to different dialogue for the various alignments to multiple endings...far more replay value than the NWN OC. It's not a long game but the length is adequate IMO.
It's not as good as Gothic 2...but then, what is? Not every game can be the best game ever.
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MageofFire
Griller of Molerats
Joined: 03 Oct 2003
Posts: 1594
Location: Monastery of Innos |
Thanks for the input, guys!  I think I'll get Greyhawk when it hits the bargain bins.
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