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Wulf
The Shepherd
Joined: 20 Sep 2003
Posts: 2312
Location: North/West.England |
If a person playing gothic decides to cheat by inserting weapons, armour, quest items, npc's ect' ect' and by various means (and there are a good number) be able to get an advantage that they normally would'nt have had, then can this be morally or ethically justified, or not? 
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Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:30 am |
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MageofFire
Griller of Molerats
Joined: 03 Oct 2003
Posts: 1594
Location: Monastery of Innos |
Sure it can be justified! They just can't expect to get credit for beating the game fairly, that's all.
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Wed Oct 29, 2003 1:16 am |
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imposteraz
Tempered Warlord
Joined: 25 Jul 2003
Posts: 282
Location: Arizona, USA |
Basically, ditto what MageofFire said.
But more specifically, since Gothic is not an online/multiplayer game, and there's no contest out there for the one who beats the game the fastest, best or whatever, then cheating in the game is just cheating yourself. It's like cheating at Solitaire. If you are happy cheating yourself, why not? Just don't expect the rest of us to applaud.
If you want to get the most challenge from the game, though, I recommend not using any cheats for the first couple of times you play the game. After that, if you want to play with various cheats to get the game to do things that would not be possible without them, or to try extreme situations that would never occur in the game normally, sure! Have fun anyway you want!
The only rule I'd suggest is that you lay out which cheats you are using (or which ones you are not using) whenever you make reference to a non-standard game -- just so the rest of us know what you are up to and how to reply to your suggestions and questions.
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Wed Oct 29, 2003 4:55 am |
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EDV
High Emperor
Joined: 12 Mar 2003
Posts: 654
Location: The Netherlands |
The only person who can dicide for you if cheating is OK is you. I always play the game at least two times and then go mess up the world with cheats, like imserting a XP map and learn every skill I can. But that's just me, you can dicide for your self if you want cheats.  |
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Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:35 am |
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RastaBlasta420
Village Leader
Joined: 23 Oct 2002
Posts: 92
Location: Canada |
I found cheating isn't nearly as fun as having to go out and hunt to earn your skill points. |
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Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:38 am |
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ServanteS
Captain of the Guard
Joined: 09 Oct 2003
Posts: 193
Location: Serbia |
quote:
Originally posted by EDV
The only person who can dicide for you if cheating is OK is you.
Nice said.
But why would somebody cheat in Gotic and ruin the pleasure of beating the game,i can agree if he finished it and wont's to do more and after all quests in Gotic were simple at least for me |
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Wed Oct 29, 2003 1:37 pm |
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Wulf
The Shepherd
Joined: 20 Sep 2003
Posts: 2312
Location: North/West.England |
I read in a big old book somewhere that to cheat is a sin, we are are all sinners, it also said "be sure your sins will find you out" 
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Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:52 am |
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x_Noble_Paladin_x
Head Merchant
Joined: 14 Sep 2002
Posts: 61
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I found it annoying that *possible spolier* G1 and G2 had the same cheat system. I constantly found myself justifing reasons not to reload or how it was unfair. This made me save less so when I did die or the game froze it was a large hassle. I wish I hadn't known the cheat system 
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Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:37 am |
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Wulf
The Shepherd
Joined: 20 Sep 2003
Posts: 2312
Location: North/West.England |
A crucial "nerve point" very true.
A person who has previously completed the game can if they wish (as said by others) try some experimenting to see "what would happen if" type situations, juggle some stats and do some "assessments for evaluation purposes" and this WOULD NOT be cheating because their intentions were not meant to be be fraudulent or to deceive.
When i first completed Gothic, i was'nt even aware marvin mode exsisted. 
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Thu Nov 06, 2003 10:55 pm |
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