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Jabberwocky
Noble Knight
Joined: 06 Nov 2003
Posts: 208
Location: New York, USA |
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I was wondering the other day if it's possible to insert music from other games or CDs into Gothic II. I'm certainly no programmer, but I was thinking that if you could convert the custom music files into the proper format, and then substitute them for the originals with the exact same names and in the proper folder, you could in effect create your own soundtrack for the game.
1. Does anyone know if this is doable?
2. What exactly determines one track fading into another based on location in the game world?
3. And would substituting songs mess this up, or would it do the "blending" thing with the new music as well?
4. What program is needed in order to make this happen?
Now I'm sure that somebody will send the inevitable response to this post that goes something like: "Why would you want to do this?" So I've taken the liberty to answer this from the start: For curiosity's sake!! I like the music in Gothic II, but there are some games or movie soundtracks that I think would be more fitting to the Gothic world, and I just want to give it a try and see how it turns out.
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated! 
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Byblos
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Joined: 14 Dec 2003
Posts: 80
Location: USA, East |
I have help!!!!!! Support!!!
This would be good because then I could extract the music and listen to it whenever! |
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Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:02 am |
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Daedalus
High Emperor
Joined: 04 Jan 2002
Posts: 2516
Location: Estonia |
it is surely possible just convert those songs into the same like gothic songs are and rename them with the names that gothic songs are and it is done. btw the fading thing is still unknown u probably have to find that out by youself  |
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Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:49 am |
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MASTER
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Posts: 30
Location: "Old Penal Colony" - ROMANIA |
| Re: Is substituting the game music possible?? |
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quote:
Originally posted by Jabberwocky
I was wondering the other day if it's possible to insert music from other games or CDs into Gothic II. I'm certainly no programmer, but I was thinking that if you could convert the custom music files into the proper format, and then substitute them for the originals with the exact same names and in the proper folder, you could in effect create your own soundtrack for the game.
1. Does anyone know if this is doable?
2. What exactly determines one track fading into another based on location in the game world?
3. And would substituting songs mess this up, or would it do the "blending" thing with the new music as well?
4. What program is needed in order to make this happen?
Now I'm sure that somebody will send the inevitable response to this post that goes something like: "Why would you want to do this?" So I've taken the liberty to answer this from the start: For curiosity's sake!! I like the music in Gothic II, but there are some games or movie soundtracks that I think would be more fitting to the Gothic world, and I just want to give it a try and see how it turns out.
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!
I think that the music from G2 is ok. I like it.
Why change it?
And... btw, realy the music from G3 will be entirely played by an REAL orchestra, not made by computer?
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Bartacus
Il Buono
Joined: 24 May 2003
Posts: 4706
Location: Belgium Flemmish part |
Ask the mod team. Cothyso might have an answer for you.
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Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:31 pm |
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Jabberwocky
Noble Knight
Joined: 06 Nov 2003
Posts: 208
Location: New York, USA |
| Re: Is substituting the game music possible?? |
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See?! I knew it!  I just knew someone would ask the question anyway. Well Master, I answered your question of "Why change it?" in my first post:
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Originally posted by Jabberwocky
Now I'm sure that somebody will send the inevitable response to this post that goes something like: "Why would you want to do this?" So I've taken the liberty to answer this from the start: For curiosity's sake!! I like the music in Gothic II, but there are some games or movie soundtracks that I think would be more fitting to the Gothic world, and I just want to give it a try and see how it turns out.
@ Bartacus: Good idea. I just might do that.
@ everyone: Does anyone know the answer to question #4? I won't be able to do this at all unless I have a program that can convert into the file ext. that Gothic uses. The files are listed as STY files. Anybody know what that is?
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Wulf
The Shepherd
Joined: 20 Sep 2003
Posts: 2312
Location: North/West.England |
Of course they are do-able,
You can swap/exchange so long as you DO NOT change the titles/names, different sound files are "called-to" (requested) by the game code, they can have different attributes, there are sounds, wav's, cutscenes-(sounds) themes, jingles and various lengths and depth, i.e smalltalk is played low, some forrest sounds are sort of reverbed (echo) some sounds are "looped" through a timer or sequence, you can play any game sound through marvin, you can extract them or even play them in windows, you can re-work them then put them back into the vdf volumes, you can record you own speech and substitute the files, yes - many things can be done with sound files,
"Goman" can see the sound files and extract them, building the vdf volumes is a little bit more involved. The vdfs.exe tool can extract and re-build the volumes.  |
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Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:20 pm |
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MASTER
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Posts: 30
Location: "Old Penal Colony" - ROMANIA |
| Re: Is substituting the game music possible?? |
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Originally posted by Jabberwocky
... Well Master, I answered your question of "Why change it?" in my first post:
ok, sorry for misunderstanding, see you later.
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Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:22 pm |
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Jabberwocky
Noble Knight
Joined: 06 Nov 2003
Posts: 208
Location: New York, USA |
Okay, thanks for the info Wulf. I have vdfs.exe of course in my Gothic II folder somewhere. But where can I find this "Goman" program? I've searched the internet but all I find are web-sites with gaming cheat codes.
@ Master: I hope I didn't upset you, I wasn't bothered by your question, I just thought it was ironic, that's all! 
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Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:59 pm |
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Wulf
The Shepherd
Joined: 20 Sep 2003
Posts: 2312
Location: North/West.England |
The World of Gothic site has many Gothic and G2 related stuff,
browse around, don't let the German language put you off, a lot of reading between the lines is possible:
This is the Goman download page :-
http://www.worldofgothic.de/dl/index.php?go=downloads&release_id=97
You could say this site has almost everything - - - in German!  |
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Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:20 pm |
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Daedalus
High Emperor
Joined: 04 Jan 2002
Posts: 2516
Location: Estonia |
and after u mod the songs there let us know how it went |
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Fri Jul 16, 2004 6:06 pm |
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Jabberwocky
Noble Knight
Joined: 06 Nov 2003
Posts: 208
Location: New York, USA |
Okay, I'm downloading Goman now. I haven't had time to do anything because my computer caught a nasty virus, and I've been forced to deal with that for the past several days. Thanks for the link Wulf. I'll let everyone know what I come up with.
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Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:23 pm |
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Jabberwocky
Noble Knight
Joined: 06 Nov 2003
Posts: 208
Location: New York, USA |
I've been messing around with Goman and VDFS extractor, but still having problems with the music. Goman seems to only recognize textures and the like rather than sound files. And although I can extract all the sound effects and speech for the game using VDFS, it still doesn't recognize the in-game music, which files end with the extension .STY
Any ideas??
P.S. I sent a PM to Torracat, as I remembered he posted earlier about finally getting the music to G2 on soundtrack. Maybe he can tell me exactly how to do it.
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Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:51 pm |
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Wulf
The Shepherd
Joined: 20 Sep 2003
Posts: 2312
Location: North/West.England |
Hey there Jabberwocky,
Sorry to hear of that nasty virus, had the same prob' a couple of months ago.
You can at least see the files in Goman yes?. then highlight, then export as, what file types do you have for exporting as ? - - also you could export the files "as" using the vdfs tool, yes?. i'm going from memory here, will have a quick try-out with Goman then let you know.  |
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Tue Jul 20, 2004 11:06 pm |
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Daedalus
High Emperor
Joined: 04 Jan 2002
Posts: 2516
Location: Estonia |
btw Torracat knows probably for sure how to rip the songs out and probably how to convert them back so try to reach him indeed  |
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