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stealth
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OMG...  This must be the worst costumer care I've ever seen.
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txa1265
Magister of the Light
Joined: 13 Apr 2004
Posts: 390
Location: Marlborough, MA USA |
quote:
Originally posted by Garrett
the game is not that bad after all...dunno why it is flamed like that...really!
Because it was released with (for many) game-wrecking bugs, completely vacant towns, *no* real side-quests, obviously incomplete areas, a rediculous spawning system, a magic system that required the player to go to such lengths to be a mage as to indicate that no serious thought could have gone into it, 'on the box' features that are still missing 9 months later ...
... I wonder as a serious game reviewer whose opinions I generally agree with how you could *not* see that? I felt my 3/5 was actually pretty generous, and I gave it based on a bias for the (my opinion) excellent dungeon designs, and the hours of fun I managed to have.
I think most people would be happy just calling it mediocre and forgetting about it except that it keeps just enough activity and 'we're working on X' that people stay in touch. If they had just dumped it and gone out of business like every other RPG developer then things would have been better ...
Mike
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Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:05 pm |
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quote:
Originally posted by Garrett
the game is not that bad after all...dunno why it is flamed like that...really!
Because there is no furniture.
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Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:27 am |
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Shimbatha
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Joined: 15 Feb 2002
Posts: 78
Location: Jersey Shore |
quote:
Originally posted by Anonymous
quote:
Originally posted by Garrett
the game is not that bad after all...dunno why it is flamed like that...really!
Because there is no furniture.
Best crpg ever: www.ikea.com
ROFL...D.W. Bradley, is that you???
That post reeked of "They hate MY game for silly reasons I don't agree with". Any of the admins want to do a quick /whois on that guests IP?? Ten to one says it's an HP employee or DC's "bgaum" web caretaker. |
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Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:09 am |
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theverybigslayer
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Joined: 05 Apr 2005
Posts: 13
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quote:
Originally posted by Shimbatha
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Originally posted by Anonymous
quote:
Originally posted by Garrett
the game is not that bad after all...dunno why it is flamed like that...really!
Because there is no furniture.
Best crpg ever: www.ikea.com
ROFL...D.W. Bradley, is that you???
That post reeked of "They hate MY game for silly reasons I don't agree with". Any of the admins want to do a quick /whois on that guests IP?? Ten to one says it's an HP employee or DC's "bgaum" web caretaker.
No, it's me. I forgot to log in (?). Anyway Dungeon Lords is a good game IMO.
I will be happy if somebody can tell a better game from last year  |
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Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:15 am |
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ToddMcF2002
Leader of the Senate
Joined: 10 Jan 2005
Posts: 317
Location: Boston MA |
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Originally posted by xSamhainx
regardless of personal opinions, the general conscensus is what it is right or wrong, and to follow up with a collectors edition just seems literally comical at this point. Might as well bust out the Ruins of Myth Dran-o collectors edition too ='.'=
Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor is an underappreciated game. Fully patched it is FAR better than Dungeon Lords. I'm about 75% done with POR but I can't get the motivation to continue with Dungeon Lords beyond Fargrove.
DL plays like a silly console game. The spawning is just stupid - it happens so often its clear it was used to provide half the combat content in the game if not more. There are no quests (that I've encountered) - just a linear progression. The dungeon designs are totally linear (at least the one leading into Fargrove). The melee combat is boring. There just isnt any reason to continue.
Its just not fun even as a consolish combat game.
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Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:37 pm |
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txa1265
Magister of the Light
Joined: 13 Apr 2004
Posts: 390
Location: Marlborough, MA USA |
quote:
Originally posted by ToddMcF2002
The dungeon designs are totally linear (at least the one leading into Fargrove).
Many of the later dungeons are really, really well done ... aside from the rampant spawning ...
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Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:41 pm |
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ToddMcF2002
Leader of the Senate
Joined: 10 Jan 2005
Posts: 317
Location: Boston MA |
I had the game on my system since launch and didnt bother trying it until 1.3. Really I gave it a chance and tried 1.4 Friday night. I just can't stand it. After playing superior titles like Severance (Blade of Darkness) and Gothic 2, its hard to accept the console like combat in DL compared to Severance and the lack of RPG and combat complexity compared to Gothic.
So I deleted it finally. Really I'm very frustrated with this title - I followed this thing for years. Maybe the later Dungeons are great but I just can't stomach getting to them.
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Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:51 pm |
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Shimbatha
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Joined: 15 Feb 2002
Posts: 78
Location: Jersey Shore |
quote:
Originally posted by theverybigslayer
No, it's me. I forgot to log in (?). Anyway Dungeon Lords is a good game IMO.
I will be happy if somebody can tell a better game from last year
Ok, how about I do you one better and give you an entire list?
Dungeon Siege 2, Fable: TLC, Sacred Underworld, The Mount & Blade Demo, and Freedom Force 2 are all games that I can think of off the top of my head.
Of course, if you count console RPGs, I can add Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2, Y's Ark of Napishtim, Stella Deus, Atelier Iris, and Dragon Quest 8 to that list as well.
It would be better for you to say what game is WORSE then Dungeon Lords. Because, quite frankly, only one game released last year was worse then DL...and that dinstinction belongs to Metal Heart. |
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Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:52 pm |
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txa1265
Magister of the Light
Joined: 13 Apr 2004
Posts: 390
Location: Marlborough, MA USA |
quote:
Originally posted by theverybigslayer
No, it's me. I forgot to log in (?). Anyway Dungeon Lords is a good game IMO.
I will be happy if somebody can tell a better game from last year
Aside from what Shimbatha just mentioned, there is also Heretic Kingdoms (Kult) which was better. Restricted Area I'd put on even keel. Space Rangers 2 is *much* better (US version coming soon), and FATE is *far* superior. Gothic 2 Gold in the US gave us NotR which ... well, it is greatness!
Even most of the mediocre handheld RPG's I highlighted in my RPGDot articles were better than DL.
Mike
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Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:59 pm |
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theverybigslayer
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Joined: 05 Apr 2005
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Originally posted by Shimbatha
Ok, how about I do you one better and give you an entire list?
Dungeon Siege 2, Fable: TLC, Sacred Underworld, The Mount & Blade Demo, and Freedom Force 2 are all games that I can think of off the top of my head.
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I want see better games not a big heap of shit.
Dungeon Siege2, Fable, FF2, Sacred are terrible games.
DS2=screensaver
Fable=console shit
FF2=Hahaha good joke
Sacred=boring Diablo clone
I am sure you can list more crappy games.
Mount&Blade is an exception.
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Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:07 pm |
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THX1138
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 10 Feb 2002
Posts: 25
Location: the belly of the whale or Palatine, IL USA |
13 posts is enough for any troll I'd say.
Please, go play your copy of DL till the cows come home.
It's ALLL yours dude.
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Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:44 pm |
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txa1265
Magister of the Light
Joined: 13 Apr 2004
Posts: 390
Location: Marlborough, MA USA |
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Originally posted by THX1138
13 posts is enough for any troll I'd say.
Trolling is out of fashion, it is now 'stealth marketing'. But elevating the interest in DL by deriding some - but not all - other games mentioned, he attempts to get people interested enough to check it out.
Mike
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Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:55 pm |
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bjon045
Fearless Paladin
Joined: 02 Jun 2003
Posts: 234
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I have to agree with theverybigslayer. Fable was a beat-em up nothing more. Freedom force 2, while it was a good game it is really a strategy game more than an rpg. DS2? click and *yawn* at it's best.
Missing features? Please tell me one. Don't you dare say that *empty* towns are anything to be upset about, try playing the bards tale series, there might be 5 npcs in an entire city and every single house looks nearly IDENTICAL. No "furniture", WOOPTY DO!!! Great!!!! I can't stand having manuever around tables etc.
The simple fact is 2005 was an abysmal year for RPGS, I would certainly not be complaining about an average (as of 1.4) rpg being released. |
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