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madalex
Village Dweller
Joined: 12 Mar 2002
Posts: 18
Location: Taipei , Taiwan |
| How to get two prisoners ,Drazic and Rodan,out the cages? |
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How to get two prisoners ,Drazic and Rodan,out the cages? 
The Rapax King want me to interrogate them,but I cannot open the door of the cages.Is there a key or something to open the cages?Where and How to get it ?
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Thu Apr 17, 2003 9:19 pm |
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dteowner
Shoegazer
Joined: 21 Mar 2002
Posts: 7570
Location: Third Hero of Erathia |
Someone with kingly authority just might have the keys you require, although you'll have to pry them from his cold, dead fingers...
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Thu Apr 17, 2003 10:28 pm |
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the mighty stamar
High Emperor
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Posts: 602
Location: arcata ca, humboldt county |
You can talk to them through their bars. you can get them to join you without opening their cages. I dont think there is a way to open their cages.
The king has a key to free the queen. |
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Thu Apr 17, 2003 11:30 pm |
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dteowner
Shoegazer
Joined: 21 Mar 2002
Posts: 7570
Location: Third Hero of Erathia |
You can definitely open those cages. It appears my memory ain't quite right about the location of the keys.
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Fri Apr 18, 2003 12:24 am |
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Val
Risen From Ashes
Joined: 18 Feb 2002
Posts: 14724
Location: Utah, USA |
The King does have the keys. Or you can pick them.
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Fri Apr 18, 2003 3:16 am |
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Bilbo
High Emperor
Joined: 12 Mar 2002
Posts: 1620
Location: New York |
Or you can just kill their jailer, the Rapax guard right beneath them. He also has a key. (There may only be 1 key available - either king or jailer. I killed the jailer, and when I later killed the king he did not give me a second key, IIRC. Reverse may also be true.)
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Fri Apr 18, 2003 3:54 am |
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madalex
Village Dweller
Joined: 12 Mar 2002
Posts: 18
Location: Taipei , Taiwan |
So , I do need to kill someone to get the key?
I don't want to kill anymore rapax , because I am also one of their Templar.
Is there a peaceful way to get the key?
I am not able to talk to Drazic or Rodan through the bars,either.
And the lock shows " A specific item is required here".
Can I go to AP and finish the game without T'Rang and Umpani?
Just leave Drazic and Rodan where they were?
Thank you guys. |
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Fri Apr 18, 2003 5:00 am |
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dteowner
Shoegazer
Joined: 21 Mar 2002
Posts: 7570
Location: Third Hero of Erathia |
quote:
Originally posted by madalex
So , I do need to kill someone to get the key?
I don't want to kill anymore rapax , because I am also one of their Templar.
Is there a peaceful way to get the key?
AFAIK, someone's gotta die.
quote:
Originally posted by madalex
Can I go to AP and finish the game without T'Rang and Umpani?
Just leave Drazic and Rodan where they were?
You certainly can. otter might be able to confirm this from direct experience, but I don't think you can stay friendly with the Rapax thru the rest of the game. Perhaps that will change your current peaceful position.
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Fri Apr 18, 2003 5:22 am |
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Bilbo
High Emperor
Joined: 12 Mar 2002
Posts: 1620
Location: New York |
quote:
Originally posted by dteowner
quote:
Originally posted by madalex
So , I do need to kill someone to get the key?
I don't want to kill anymore rapax , because I am also one of their Templar.
Is there a peaceful way to get the key?
AFAIK, someone's gotta die.
quote:
Originally posted by madalex
Can I go to AP and finish the game without T'Rang and Umpani?
Just leave Drazic and Rodan where they were?
You certainly can. otter might be able to confirm this from direct experience, but I don't think you can stay friendly with the Rapax thru the rest of the game. Perhaps that will change your current peaceful position.
Yep, someone's got to die, and it will cost you your friendliness to the Rapax.
You can get to AP with the Rapax being friendly. [@Dte - Don't complete this quest and another one you've already started; obviously you'll also lose some later optional quests and incur a major penalty on AP.] But I'm not sure if you can win as such, because there is an unavoidable encounter with Rapax on AP. This encounter may force combat, which would be consistent with the story line. But then again, maybe not, especially if you have the Rapax mage with you - and this would lead to a new story line I've never seen discussed anywhere.
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Fri Apr 18, 2003 5:47 am |
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the mighty stamar
High Emperor
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Posts: 602
Location: arcata ca, humboldt county |
You dont have to kill anyone to talk to the prisoners! You can talk to them through the bars. You dont need to ever open their cages for any reason whatsoever! Unless you want to kill them. No one has to die at all the rapax camp is meaningless to the game just gives you experience.
Ok if you want them to join you after you listen to them you will turn the rapax templar hostile. Or if you kill any of the rapaxs.
If you dont want to fight any rapax templars... leave that area and take the three things to the rapax castles and ascend right now. You can forget about them.
You will fight the rapax prince another al sexudus thing and rapax commons on the mountain. |
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Fri Apr 18, 2003 8:10 am |
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otter
One of Us
Joined: 28 Jun 2002
Posts: 1337
Location: Portland, OR |
The T'rang-Umpani alliance is worth a bunch of XP. That's the only reason to do it; there's no ending where any of the allies who say they'll meet you there actually show up. This is a part of the game that was not finished.
I've never picked up the Rapax RPC, i imagine it'd be like having Sparkle along and killing the Trynnies...(never tried that, either...)
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Sat Apr 19, 2003 9:09 am |
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the mighty stamar
High Emperor
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Posts: 602
Location: arcata ca, humboldt county |
The rapax rpc leaves your party and starts fighting you. |
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Sat Apr 19, 2003 6:34 pm |
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Shrapnel
Rocket Scientist
Joined: 03 Jan 2002
Posts: 1325
Location: Newark, NJ |
well over a mil in exp if you free them, and get the two races allied
The King has the key to the stockade itself, the rapax jailer has the key to the cells |
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Tue Jun 03, 2003 5:01 pm |
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