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Robin_Hood
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Joined: 27 Oct 2003
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Location: USA --- NJ |
| The end of the game questions...and thoughts. |
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DONT READ THIS IF YOU HAVE NOT BEAT THE GAME..WELL YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE ENDING.
Ok now when you are talking to the undead dragon and he is saying how we are both the same. And then he sais dont you see the connection we have, and then we say no it can't be Xardas always said..well what is the connection between the nameless hero and foe? Are they brothers or something? |
Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:53 pm |
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Crashzone
Guards Lieutenant
Joined: 15 Sep 2003
Posts: 169
Location: Belgium |
Hmm I dunno, I think you'll know it in Gothic 3
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Robin_Hood
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 27 Oct 2003
Posts: 35
Location: USA --- NJ |
Prolly |
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Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:03 pm |
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ekwhite
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 23 Feb 2003
Posts: 26
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I think it may have something to do with the cut scene at the ending, where you find out that Xardas has taken on the power of the dragon... |
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Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:31 pm |
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jmurdock
Old Fogey
Joined: 11 Nov 2003
Posts: 1285
Location: the heart of acadiana they like to call it |
I think it has something to do with the hero being the chosen of Innos and the dragon being the chosen of Beliar. Did you ever listen to the who;e story Vatras tells in the Temple Court? It sounds the battle between Beliar and Innos has been raging for time immemorial and every now and then each God chooses and the 2 battle. But then what do I know? I'm not the game developer. 
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Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:39 pm |
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MoonDragon
High Emperor
Joined: 25 May 2002
Posts: 1254
Location: Waterloo, Canada |
I think that he's implying that you are for Innos what he is for Beliar. Remember how Xardas quoted Vatras' story? "And the human slew the beast..." You are an avatar of Innos. First, the Sleeper was an avatar of Beliar. Then the undead dragon was an avatar of Beliar. And now, Xardas is an avatar of Beliar. Xardas knew all this and actually helped you and guided you all along so that you may defeat the first two avatars, so that he may end up being next in line for the promotion.
I think the trick is that, since you're not really up on the lore of all this (as a character), Adanos helps you out from time to time, so that you may be victorious and keep the balance in place.
After all, you are the 'chosen' one. Remember what Xardas said about the eye of Innos? Only the chosen one may wear it, all others will perish.
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Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:46 pm |
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Robin_Hood
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Joined: 27 Oct 2003
Posts: 35
Location: USA --- NJ |
yes yes our guy is the chosen one and the dragon is the chosen one. I think he was saying that they were like brothers. [ not in a related way ] We will find out more in gothic 3.
Also you guys do know that Xardas used us in Gothic 1 and Gothic 2. He wanted you in Gothic 1 to kill the sleeper becase, he was Beliars avatar and Xardas wanted to be the avartar. Even Xardas said this ''What was denyed to me in the sleepers temple has finally come'' When you killed Beliars avartar Xardas tryed to become the next one but Beliar did not want him. He chose the Dragon instead. Then Xardas wanted you to kill Beliars next avartar and when you did he took his powers and Beliar this time did choose him. But Xardas does'nt care for which is right and wrong he wants power, so thats why he left the fire magicians for more power and then he wants to be Beliars chosen [ A powerful magician whos a chosen of the gods will have unlimited str] So you see how Xardas used us in G1 and G2? |
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Sun Nov 23, 2003 2:59 am |
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yeberion
Head Merchant
Joined: 14 Nov 2003
Posts: 50
Location: Temple of the sleeper, Swamp Camp |
you learn that you are a chosen from gothic 1, do you remember xardas saying somthing about the orc prophecys about the one who will come and destroy the barrier, the destroying of the barrier was the beggining of this clash between the avatars of the god, destroying the barrier was what made xardas so sure that our hero is a chosen of inos, that is my theory anyway because as you all know the barrier was not really made as a prison but to protect the ore from beliar.
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Robin_Hood
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well actually it was made as a prison and a protective thing from beliar. Xardus made the barrier go wrong so he could stay stuck so he could meet the chosen one. He knew that the innos avartor would come to kill beliars avartor and then Xardus could try to take the power and be the chosen of beliar like he did with the dragon  |
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Mon Nov 24, 2003 6:16 pm |
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jmurdock
Old Fogey
Joined: 11 Nov 2003
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Location: the heart of acadiana they like to call it |
IMHO Xardus is a stinkin' coward for not going after the Sleeper himself and sending our poor stranger after him instead.
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Lintra
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Location: Bermuda, the triangle place with SANDY BEACHES |
quote:
Originally posted by Robin_Hood
well actually it was made as a prison and a protective thing from beliar. Xardus made the barrier go wrong so he could stay stuck so he could meet the chosen one. He knew that the innos avartor would come to kill beliars avartor and then Xardus could try to take the power and be the chosen of beliar like he did with the dragon
Xardas made the barrier go awry? Where do you get that from? It makes a kind of sense, but are you sure?
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Tue Nov 25, 2003 1:32 pm |
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Korplem
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If I remember correctly, Ur-Shak says the sleeper was the one that messed up the creation of the barrier...
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Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:46 pm |
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Lintra
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quote:
Originally posted by Korplem
If I remember correctly, Ur-Shak says the sleeper was the one that messed up the creation of the barrier...
This is what I had remembered, but it could be a bit of misdirection. Xardas has obviously been laying his plans for a very, very long time.
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Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:12 pm |
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Korplem
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That's true. It could actually have been Xardas, since if the barrier was made to keep Beliar from the ore... then why would Beliar's avatar be the thing holding up the barrier...? 
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Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:22 pm |
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Robin_Hood
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Location: USA --- NJ |
At jmurdock:
Well Xardus could not have beet the Sleeper only the chosen one could..but I get what you were trying to say.
REMEMBER THIS IS JUST WHAT I THINK WE WILL KNOW IN GOTHIC 3 THE TRUTH.
Also the sleeper was the key to the barriors opening. I think that Xardus made the barrior go wrong but he also made the barrior only go away once Beliars avartar is dead [ sleeper ] because Xardus knew he would meet the chosen of innos. |
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