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40% |
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| No, that stuff makes me puke. |
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16% |
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| Yes! and it also makes me puke! |
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| Im NOT an alcoholic !!! |
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Patriot
Small Tiger

Joined: 31 May 2004
Posts: 1421
Location: Athens,Greece |
quote: Originally posted by xSamhainx
I tried non-alchoholic beer once, it just wasnt very good at all. It just rings hollow and flat to me, like drinking decaffeinated coffee or something. All the pleasure of excessive urination and heartburn without getting a buzz
And what about the taste. _________________ (Firefox_Mythos)(Παντος)Reaperfox(Ρουβαλης)Tezafox Katsaridoktono(Ντουσικος)Che(Ταγαρης)Crusader(nokos)shadowfox(Μηχελης)aquafox(Στελιος)thunderfox_gomos(Γιωργος) |
Sat Jul 24, 2004 3:55 pm |
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Beliarsclew
Victim Of The Greed


Joined: 15 May 2004
Posts: 581
Location: Jordan-Middle East |
I drink the Non-alcoholic beer, and i think it's great.
It has just the same taste but the diffrence that it don't make an idiot by making you a drunk..  _________________ <Sigh>.Time.Passes.Quickly. </Sigh> |
Sat Jul 24, 2004 8:17 pm |
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Beliarsclew
Victim Of The Greed


Joined: 15 May 2004
Posts: 581
Location: Jordan-Middle East |
quote: Originally posted by Ammon777
I dont mind if you guys/gals dont drink. Just dont think youre god-all-mighty better than a person that drinks. You arent. Drink grapejuice -- thats okey. If you drink whiskey, thats okey too. I dont see the difference in a person. There is none. One likes the drug in alcohol, the other doesnt. One likes to stumble around having their fun, the other has more fun sober. Woopee-do.
Don't speak in things you don't know!
What do you know about OUR god anyway?!
You ***** **** *******...~{you wanted to be rude}~ _________________ <Sigh>.Time.Passes.Quickly. </Sigh> |
Sat Jul 24, 2004 8:34 pm |
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Patriot
Small Tiger

Joined: 31 May 2004
Posts: 1421
Location: Athens,Greece |
I think this thread makes us to argue.  _________________ (Firefox_Mythos)(Παντος)Reaperfox(Ρουβαλης)Tezafox Katsaridoktono(Ντουσικος)Che(Ταγαρης)Crusader(nokos)shadowfox(Μηχελης)aquafox(Στελιος)thunderfox_gomos(Γιωργος) |
Sat Jul 24, 2004 11:01 pm |
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Ammon777
Warrior for Heaven

Joined: 20 Apr 2002
Posts: 2011
Location: United States |
quote: Originally posted by Beliarsclew
Don't speak in things you don't know! What do you know about OUR god anyway?! You ***** **** *******...~{you wanted to be rude}~
You dont know [squat] about what i know, [jack].
EDIT -- removed expletives. |
Sun Jul 25, 2004 1:41 am |
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Patriot
Small Tiger

Joined: 31 May 2004
Posts: 1421
Location: Athens,Greece |
quote: Originally posted by Ammon777
quote: Originally posted by Beliarsclew
Don't speak in things you don't know! What do you know about OUR god anyway?! You ***** **** *******...~{you wanted to be rude}~
You dont know [squat] about what i know, [jack].
EDIT -- removed expletives.
Here's the proof. _________________ (Firefox_Mythos)(Παντος)Reaperfox(Ρουβαλης)Tezafox Katsaridoktono(Ντουσικος)Che(Ταγαρης)Crusader(nokos)shadowfox(Μηχελης)aquafox(Στελιος)thunderfox_gomos(Γιωργος) |
Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:02 am |
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Ammon777
Warrior for Heaven

Joined: 20 Apr 2002
Posts: 2011
Location: United States |
Proof of what? Proof that i am drunk? I wasnt. I was sober.
Alcohol has bad effects, i admit. But to say that it is ALL bad effects, is wrong.
Alcoholism is another thing entirely. It is an evil.
But alcohol is legal for a reason. People put up with it. Even cops do to a certain extent. Why should i feel guilty then? Im not breaking the law by walking home after i go to the bar.
I understand though. Some people respond badly to it. Like the guy that beats his wife while drunk. Or the drunk that is homeless because all he buys from his social security check is alcohol. Thats bad. But you have to understand, dont you, that those are character flaws responding to alcohol.
When i get drunk, i am the most friendly and peaceful guy on earth. Ask anyone i know. I have never raised my hand against another person. In fact, when they insult me, i shake their hand still, hoping for peace and friendship. Thats my character. But i know a few other people are the opposite.
I apologize for being sarcastic and insulting, ect... I was being stupid. But i was sober though. But i have mood swings because of schizoaffective disorder, so you arent dealing with an exactly common person. So i have an exuse. What is yours? Are you just an argumentative jerk or what? Do you feel so strongly as to defend your position with degrading talk? If so, then you arent much better than a drunk person.
Its all in character disposition. Some people are total a-holes drunk. Other people are nice. It all depends. But you cant blame alcohol for those things. All you can do is stay away from it if it makes you bad.
You dont know what i know. How can you say that? You dont even know how intelligent or ignorant i am from where you are sitting. How can you? Are you clairvoyant or what. And you dont know what i know about God. I am not religious, but i used to be. I know all about the different religions, their philosophies, moral values, theology, ect. How can you say that i dont know shit?
I admit, you made me angry. But so what. Lets be friends. We can talk this out. Tell me why you think alcohol is bad, and i will take it under consideration. I dont know everything. In fact, i dont know much. I have only lived for 30 years so far. I can imagine your god has lived billions of years. Imagine how much He knows. But He doesnt distill much of that knowledge to us. If so, then why are we so ignorant? Why is society so ignorant? I know He exists, but why doesnt He make it more obvious that He exists?
I gotta go, but all i can say is, PEACE my friends. I dont mean harm to you. I might get defensive at times, but that is because i care about the conversation.
Have a good day/night. |
Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:29 am |
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Patriot
Small Tiger

Joined: 31 May 2004
Posts: 1421
Location: Athens,Greece |
If you are talking to me then I've to say that you are realy modest.In my previus post I wanted to tell you that we argue about stupit things.That's why I wrote that.Also how do you know that I believe to god. _________________ (Firefox_Mythos)(Παντος)Reaperfox(Ρουβαλης)Tezafox Katsaridoktono(Ντουσικος)Che(Ταγαρης)Crusader(nokos)shadowfox(Μηχελης)aquafox(Στελιος)thunderfox_gomos(Γιωργος) |
Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:57 am |
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|comy|
Eager Tradesman


Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Posts: 42
Location: Slovenia |
I have absolutly nothing against alcohol when consumed in small quantities as in a glass or so. What I am against is someone getting drunk, I don't see fun in that, do you ? I dunno.
But look at it this way : does alcohol do more good, or more bad ?
I would choose that it does more bad ( I expressed my point of view about it in my previous post ) so I say drinking is bad.
About religion : I am a christian although I don't go to church, let's just say I call myself a christian but don't act like one. I attended religious classes ( I don't know the right word for it ) from age 7 to 14, so I know a thing or two about it, but later on I noticed how missled the religion has become.
Just an example : our religion forbides any kind of statue worshiping, as any christian would know, but one day the priest brought a 0.5 meter tall statue of holy Mary and we prayed to it. I dunno but this feels to me like statue worshiping There is tons of different kind of similarities which oppose the true belief of this religion, my father is more educated in it then myself so I can't speak of it as freely as I should.
P.s. : have a nice day  _________________ now as the lights go down
deeper now it seems than long before
there are no noises here
just a silence gone bad
something I will never hide
this urging need to
invite the darkside in
into my haven |
Sun Jul 25, 2004 12:02 pm |
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Patriot
Small Tiger

Joined: 31 May 2004
Posts: 1421
Location: Athens,Greece |
I'm also a cristian but I'm a bit confused about my religion.I don't know if everything's true cause everything happened 2000years ago(and more).Also if there's god and he knows everything then why he created us(I mean the mistake that the first people did.If he wanted to help us why he doesn't do it and we keep waiting.Then you can say that's our fault that we leave here now in this world.But why everybody should leave here and not somewhere else just because the first people decided to go with the pain and lies..
psSo what do you think. _________________ (Firefox_Mythos)(Παντος)Reaperfox(Ρουβαλης)Tezafox Katsaridoktono(Ντουσικος)Che(Ταγαρης)Crusader(nokos)shadowfox(Μηχελης)aquafox(Στελιος)thunderfox_gomos(Γιωργος) |
Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:22 pm |
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Beliarsclew
Victim Of The Greed


Joined: 15 May 2004
Posts: 581
Location: Jordan-Middle East |
quote: Originally posted by Ammon777
quote: Originally posted by Beliarsclew
Don't speak in things you don't know! What do you know about OUR god anyway?! You ***** **** *******...~{you wanted to be rude}~
You dont know [squat] about what i know, [jack].
EDIT -- removed expletives.
What [squat]?? And what [jack]??
And i suggest to close that topic between us {Patriot, me, graham2 & the author} To avoid any flaming or spamming and to stay friends...
What do you say guys? _________________ <Sigh>.Time.Passes.Quickly. </Sigh> |
Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:12 pm |
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X-dANGEr
Unknown Destiny

Joined: 16 Jun 2004
Posts: 2383
Location: The X place |
Patriot, what is the mistake you are talking about????  _________________
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Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:29 pm |
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Beliarsclew
Victim Of The Greed


Joined: 15 May 2004
Posts: 581
Location: Jordan-Middle East |
quote: Originally posted by patriot
I'm also a cristian but I'm a bit confused about my religion.I don't know if everything's true cause everything happened 2000years ago(and more).Also if there's god and he knows everything then why he created us(I mean the mistake that the first people did.If he wanted to help us why he doesn't do it and we keep waiting.Then you can say that's our fault that we leave here now in this world.But why everybody should leave here and not somewhere else just because the first people decided to go with the pain and lies..
psSo what do you think.
I think that he created us to make a test of Limit of faith of the humans to see if they reply good or bad ~~Good when you prey and so~~ ~~bad when you drink and do the illegal things like being a theif or being a outlaw and so on {You know what else~its' forbidden to mention it}~~ _________________ <Sigh>.Time.Passes.Quickly. </Sigh> |
Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:40 pm |
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Patriot
Small Tiger

Joined: 31 May 2004
Posts: 1421
Location: Athens,Greece |
quote: Originally posted by X-dANGEr
Patriot, what is the mistake you are talking about????
Okay here's the story the god created one man and then a woman.He put them to leave in a place which in the center was an aple tree.He told them that they could eat from all the trees axept the aplle tree.But the woman was curies and the a snake which simbol the evil speaked to her and made her to eat the aplle.Then the woman told the man to taste it.After that the god speaked to them and asked them if they want to follow his path but they said no and then the comunication betwin the god and the people was vanguised.That's why we suffer and we feel the pain and that thing untill one day the god will come to earth and save us.But nobody nows acept him when this day'll come.This was the mistake and that's the explanation and why we'll leave with pain and all this crap.Please don't write that this story is stupit it's our religion and symbols many things. _________________ (Firefox_Mythos)(Παντος)Reaperfox(Ρουβαλης)Tezafox Katsaridoktono(Ντουσικος)Che(Ταγαρης)Crusader(nokos)shadowfox(Μηχελης)aquafox(Στελιος)thunderfox_gomos(Γιωργος) |
Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:40 pm |
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|comy|
Eager Tradesman


Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Posts: 42
Location: Slovenia |
You say that your belief is that because of Adam and Eve we have to suffer now for their sins. OK, got nothing against it but let me propose a totaly different side of the story.
Reincarnation ! The sins that you do in this lifetime are noted and in the next rebirth you pay for those sins. It is an endless circle but as all things I believe this can be broken too. What do you think about it. It makes sence to me.
EDIT : just remembered another thing about christianity. One of the commandments says something in a way : do not kill. It does not specify only don't kill a human being. I think this is ment quite generaly. Animals are being killed every day ( slaughterhouses ). Almost all christians eat meat but as it seems to me it is in violation with their own religion ( im a vegeterian ) _________________ now as the lights go down
deeper now it seems than long before
there are no noises here
just a silence gone bad
something I will never hide
this urging need to
invite the darkside in
into my haven
Last edited by |comy| on Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:53 pm; edited 4 times in total |
Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:48 pm |
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