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Egin
Keeper of the Gates
Joined: 24 Jun 2003
Posts: 120
Location: Estonia |
| Pickpocketing formula, help |
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I have just learned pick pocket skill (hated this, but I need it to complete some quests).
I have seen two kinds of pickpocket difficulty so far.
1 Something like - it is very easy to pick pocket his purse.
Pickpocket works 100%
2 It is simple to pick pocket his purse
Doesn't work at all.
Does it have any factor of luck, I mean I can do this finally through reloading ? (though I tried many times and it didn't work)
My dex is 21. Maybe I'll need about 30 or so to be able to pick those -simple- pockets?
I am trying to get the key from Judge and he is in the category of being simple. I will never get his key, as he always catches me 
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elkston
High Emperor
Joined: 21 Sep 2002
Posts: 691
Location: North Carolina, USA |
I'm not sure what the formula is, but one thing I've learned is that the difficulty category of the pickpocket is not relative your current dexterity, but rather a fixed scale.
This means that "child plays", for example would mean a dex from 10-20 would work, "easy" is 20-30, "simple", 30-40, etc. Not certain that these are the exact numbers, but you get my drift.
At first, those settings threw me off because when it said it was "easy", I thought the game was dynamically determining the level based on what my current dexterity was. So I wondered why I kept getting caught trying to pickpocket Zuris when the game said it was "easy". In actually, the game is just telling you right off the bat that you need "xxxx" dexterity in order to pickpocket this person. In fact, I'm not certain that when you meet the dexterity requirements, that an element of chance is still involved. It seems to work all the time at that point.
I tihnk it would have been a bit more useful to display the pickpocket chance relative to your current dex.
Anyway, I think you need at least 30 dex to pickpocket the judge. I think I had 35 when I did it.
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Sun Jul 06, 2003 4:11 pm |
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Egin
Keeper of the Gates
Joined: 24 Jun 2003
Posts: 120
Location: Estonia |
Ohh, that's not good. I am a warrior type. So, I invest into wep. mastery and str. I don't put any LPs into dex., only if I find some permanent +dex potions.
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Sun Jul 06, 2003 4:16 pm |
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Seth
Last Man Standing
Joined: 23 Jan 2002
Posts: 1008
Location: Faerun |
By the end of the game I had 121 dex. I pickpocket everybody (more for experience than for gold), and lockpicking was easy as well I couldn’t break a lock-pick even if I wanted it to.
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Sun Jul 06, 2003 4:37 pm |
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liquid
Captain of the Guard
Joined: 06 Jul 2003
Posts: 176
Location: in a dark rabbit hole where no one will find me |
there are 6 pocket pick levels:
1. 10-20 DEX
2. 21-49 DEX
3. 49-59 DEX
4. 59-69 DEX
5. 70-99 DEX
6. 100-120 DEX
this means with dex over 120 you can pick every pocket
for the Judge 30 Dex should be enough
(if my english is bad sorry im german) |
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Sun Jul 06, 2003 5:32 pm |
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Egin
Keeper of the Gates
Joined: 24 Jun 2003
Posts: 120
Location: Estonia |
thanks for good information.
Can I stil solve blood chalises quest in the second or third chapter? I haven't triggered it yet. (Damn, and where are the chalises, I only found 2)
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Sun Jul 06, 2003 11:33 pm |
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liquid
Captain of the Guard
Joined: 06 Jul 2003
Posts: 176
Location: in a dark rabbit hole where no one will find me |
yes you can
1. lemars chest
2. valentinos chest in his house (2nd house right after you enter the upper town) pull lamp in the upper floor chest is downstairs valentino has the key
3. judges chest pull the shield in the upper floor chest is downstairs judge has the key 30 dex to pick pocket
4. in the house between the house of lutero and the other one with the merchant key is on the fireplace climb the wood
5. in gerbrandt house upper floor (1st house right you enter the upper town)
6. in the house with lord hagen upper floor
(if my english is bad sorry im german) |
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Sun Jul 06, 2003 11:54 pm |
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Egin
Keeper of the Gates
Joined: 24 Jun 2003
Posts: 120
Location: Estonia |
Thank you, this is invaluable  great!
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Sun Jul 06, 2003 11:57 pm |
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Z-lot
Village Dweller
Joined: 06 Jul 2003
Posts: 23
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1. First chalice from Lehmar's house is harbor district (in chest)
2. Second chalice at Gerbrandt's house (find the switch)
3. Third chalice at second house to right in upper quarter (yes, you have to find the switch)
4. Fourth from the judge's house (have fun finding the switch)
5. Fifth chalice in the house next to Salandril's house (chest)
6. Sixth chalice in 1st floor of Lord Hagen's house (nicely visible)
(and have fun finding the switches)
Well, give it a try. If it is possible, Cassia will attack you anyway because you exceeded the two-day timeline:), but run away and than return like nothing had happened - it should work.
liquid:
When I pickpocketed some people and had 30 dex, I wasn't successful. But when I raised my dex to 35 and tried again, they were easy pickpocketable.I really don't see a reason for your scale. |
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Mon Jul 07, 2003 12:05 am |
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liquid
Captain of the Guard
Joined: 06 Jul 2003
Posts: 176
Location: in a dark rabbit hole where no one will find me |
@z-lot
well it depends on the level of the person and also his dex this varies from person to person so thats why you can pickpocket some simple with 30 dex and other ones only with 49 dex
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Mon Jul 07, 2003 12:11 am |
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Egin
Keeper of the Gates
Joined: 24 Jun 2003
Posts: 120
Location: Estonia |
I haven't triggered the quest and therefore the time counter yet
I will try and find all chalises, hopefully in next chapter.
Thanks for your help.
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