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Greyhawk Demo on Kazaa?
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Dhruin
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Greyhawk Demo on Kazaa?
   

It appears a 6-hour time-limited trial-version of Greyhawk: The Temple of Elemental Evil is available through the P2P download system Kazaa according this <a href="http://desktop.kazaa.com/us/games/temple_of_evil.htm" target="_blank">link</a>. I can't find anything official about this from Atari but the Kazaa page seems legitimate and Atari forum readers seem to verify it works. The file is 843Mb (!) and downloaders can pay $49.99 to unlock the full game.
Post Wed Sep 17, 2003 10:40 pm
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Doesnt P2P border on software piracy?
Post Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:20 pm
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"The Temple of Elemental Evil ™ is a turn based RPG based on the beloved classic D&D module set in the land of Greyhawk. Like the Baldur’s Gate series on which it is party based, it is developed by Troika games - award winning developer of the highly acclaimed and award winning Arcanum series and Fallout."

They forgot to mention that Troika also created Morrowind, Gothic, Super Mario and the Internet...
Post Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:38 pm
 
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> Doesnt P2P border on software piracy?

Umm, no. Downloading software you don't own over a P2P network is softer piracy, but the technology in of itself isn't illegal by any means. This deal seems legit -- built in time limit, and you can buy the whole thing for fifty bucks with a credit card. Sounds like the kind of distribution system Valve's been starting to work with; you get the convenience of not having to run out to the store, but you don't get a physical CD (unless you burn one) or a manual.
Post Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:41 pm
 
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Of course it isn't.
Post Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:43 pm
 
Dhruin
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@Ammon - There's nothing wrong with P2P networks themselves - the problem is they're mostly used to share copyrighted material.

This must have been organised in conjunction with Atari (otherwise who designed the time-limited trial and who receives the $49.99?) and I doubt Kazaa would take any risks with a download they're promoting on a main page.

This is just a different (and interesting) method of distribution rather than , say, putting it on Fileplanet.

Didn't Troika invent the internet? *g*
Post Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:45 pm
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Very interesting idea...
   

But I think I will wait for the game to be released in the UK. I really want to own the physical media, rather then the software on my Hard Disk...
Post Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:50 pm
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I thought Al Gore invented the internet. Good ole albert.

I dont like P2P, im gonna wait for fileplanet instead. And then i will buy the physical box. Im not gonna keep this hard-drive forever...
Post Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:55 pm
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Lies - I tells ya!
   

The Al Gore quote was a load of baloney (As the Yanks would put it)

Anyway, the Half Life 2 parallels are quite interesting...! Online distribution is starting to become more prevalent nowadays...
Post Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:01 am
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From what I gather, you need the actual kazaa and kazaa lite will not work.


Im actually interested in people who have used this version and paid, and how it works.
Post Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:26 am
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What makes you think it wouldn't work with Kazaa Lite?
Post Thu Sep 18, 2003 1:40 am
 
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I would bet ALOT that this is a scam

You almost certainly get a pirated version and then when you pay (probably through paypal or something anonymous) you get some generated key (ie. not a real key but it still works offline)
Post Thu Sep 18, 2003 1:46 am
 
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Ive been scammed before. It does sound like a scam, especially considering what vehicle for distribution is used -- kazaa, pirate software extraordinaire. I dont care if you think its a legal program, what is done with it usually isnt legal. Anyway, it sounds like a scam because the publisher hasnt even announced it as being legit.
Post Thu Sep 18, 2003 1:58 am
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I've started my download...looks legit to me. Kazaa themselves, not individuals, offer several different demos of games on their offical front page. This ToEE demo is offered with screensots, box cover pic, atari D&D trademark info, system requirements, game features and sysnopsys. If its a scam, then its a pretty convincing one.
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Post Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:11 am
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Umm. OK, Ammon, assume for a minute that you're right. This is a scam, and either some guy managed to impersonate Atari and sucker Kazaa into flogging this deal on their page, or Kazaa themselves are trying to screw with people. It's a hacked pirated version. What do you think will happen?

Well, the devs are going to read this post, dissatisfied consumers will begin flooding Atari's customer support box with complaints after approximately six hours and one minute of play, and then Atari is going to sue the hell out of Kazaa. I would be willing to bet that the people behind Kazaa are quite aware of exactly how thin the line they're walking is, given the widespread perception that their app is only for software pirates, and they know that they'd basically be destroyed by such a lawsuit. I'd say there's a little bit of incentive to do your due diligence there, wouldn't you? Figure you'd at least bounce some emails off Atari to make sure things were legit, no?

I really don't see how this could be a scam. They didn't announce it ahead of time, which is weird, but think things through.
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