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Jaz
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Lintra: Eiswein would be it then. A Beerenauslese is made from hand-selected grapes, very sweet and very expensive (which is why I had to think of this as well).

BoM: I like games which let you choose your path freely (in terms of good or evil) as well. Which is why I liked Jagged Alliance so much... behave however you wish and live to bear the consequences. I loved the fact that you could stress an NPC so badly with your behavior that he or she quit
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Post Wed Aug 21, 2002 8:58 pm
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mDrop
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Hmm. A lot of antipathy over BG2 here

Although it was only 3rd in my list, I don't really understand how people could not like it. And while I agree that some of it's status comes from the period it was released in, but I think it only heightens it's value. Back then, nobody had either the balls or the talent to make serious CRPGs. Sure it's easy now to produce CRPGs since they are 'pop', but a few years ago it took a lot to get anything published. Without Fallouts and BG-series, I doubt that the CRPG-scene would be a lot dryer. I myself didn't enjoy BG1 that much the first time I played it, but BG2 is really different. The interaction and the plots and locations still rank 3rd in my list...

Never understood the fuzz about Gothic, played for a couple of days and got seriously bored, returned the game..
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Post Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:59 am
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Provis
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@mDrop
Want to borrow my flame shield?
Saying Gothic sucked is worse than saying PS:T Sucked.
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Post Thu Aug 22, 2002 12:52 pm
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mDrop
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I fear that a simple shield won't do, I'll be needing some serious full-body armor in the next few hours/days

I guess I should learn not to write flame-baits on purpose

But I really never got into Gothic, something about that game just kept pushing me off although I really tried to like it. Maybe I should try it again when it comes into the mid-price range. I had the same problem with Arcanum; when I first tried it I didn't like it at all and just left it hanging on my HD. Then after a few months, I tried it again and fell in love immediately.

I think liking a game has very much to do with what you have been playing recently or what other games you are playing at the moment. I can't remember the other games I was playing when I tried Arcanum the first and second time, but I thought about it then and realized a clear reason why I first didn't liked it and then fell deeply in love with it.
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Post Thu Aug 22, 2002 1:47 pm
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Provis
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You'll probably will need some divine intervention to survive.
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Post Thu Aug 22, 2002 5:30 pm
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here's my alternative top 10 ( includes rpg/squad combat/adventure/shooter/space sims/strategy mixes)

1. Jagged Alliance 2
2. Deus X
3. Incubation
4. Independence War II - Edge of Chaos
5. Jagged Alliance 1 + Deadly Games
6. Rage of Mages 2
7. Rage of Mages 1
8. Redguard
9. Quest For Glory (complete series)
10. Kings Quest 7,8
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Post Thu Aug 22, 2002 11:26 pm
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Jaz
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My hybrid top 3 would be:
1. Realms of the Haunting
2. Realms of the Haunting
3. Realms of the Haunting .
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Post Fri Aug 23, 2002 12:12 am
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Windwalking
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quote:
Originally posted by mDrop
Hmm. A lot of antipathy over BG2 here

Although it was only 3rd in my list, I don't really understand how people could not like it. And while I agree that some of it's status comes from the period it was released in, but I think it only heightens it's value. Back then, nobody had either the balls or the talent to make serious CRPGs. Sure it's easy now to produce CRPGs since they are 'pop', but a few years ago it took a lot to get anything published. Without Fallouts and BG-series, I doubt that the CRPG-scene would be a lot dryer. I myself didn't enjoy BG1 that much the first time I played it, but BG2 is really different. The interaction and the plots and locations still rank 3rd in my list...

Never understood the fuzz about Gothic, played for a couple of days and got seriously bored, returned the game..


My fuzz about Gothic (love that term ) was the immersion and integration of the whole game. The environment was done really well, and it's little things like seeing Snappers (the raptor-like dinos) hunting Scavengers (bird-like things) or a random Rogue firing at a wolf that really helps. The combat flows seemlessly with the normal gameplay, and combat, while simple, was pretty fun because of the hands on nature of it. The characters you meet all seem to be doing stuff (albeit this is an illusion, as they do the *same* stuff over and over again for 50 days), and they all *react* to things happening around them. If you try to steal from a chest while someone's watching, they'll warn you or attack. If you lure a bunch of wolves into town, they'll start attacking the wolves, and the wolves will often turn their attention away from you. And wolves can be persuaded to hunt easier prey, if you lead them to it (like molerats). Hit and run tactics are fun, esp. with acrobatics. The basic story is pretty interesting (and original, for a fantasy RPG), and I definitely felt like some peon pawn scum when I first arrived (everyone treats you like one). It's great being able to work your way up, and gradually have a bigger effect on the world while doing so.

All in all, Gothic was just a great immersive game (with flaws, but easy to overlook )

- Wind
Post Fri Aug 23, 2002 7:10 am
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