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Dhruin
Stranger In A Strange Land
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Interplay: 4th Qtr Results - Fallout 3 will be Developed? |
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Interplay has released their 2003 4th Quarter Results and held a conference call for investors, revealing their current financial shape and some interesting details on current and future game projects.
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<br>First <a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040414/dew026_1.html" target="_blank">Yahoo! Finance</a> has the numbers including a return to profit but some grim problems remain:<blockquote><em>Commenting on the results, Interplay Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Herve Caen said, "These results mark an important milestone for Interplay. In 2003, we had a return to operating profit and substantially reduced our debt. However, we continue to operate under cash constraints. Specifically, Interplay is three months in arrears on its corporate lease obligation, may have short-term payroll difficulties and has outstanding payroll tax obligations as of the date of this release. Certainly, financial challenges remain, yet we are proud of what our team has accomplished thus far and we are committed to working even harder to maintain our return to operating profitability. "</em></blockquote>Much more interesting, however, is the information coming out about Interplay's game plans. I have not been able to find a log so these details have been passed on by others and should be considered subject to error. Here's part of <a href="http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5976" target="_blank">No Mutants Allowed</a> summary:<blockquote><em>There are plans to publish Fallout 3 for the PC through an external studio
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<br>Baldur's Gate 3 is definitely no longer Interplay's, leaving them with Dark Alliance games
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<br>They will not do a sequel for Fallout Brotherhood of Steel (gee, maybe it flopped?), but will do another Action/RPG-crossbreed console game in the Fallout world. Plans on this are a bit shady, not sure which engine to use.
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<br>The next Dark Alliance game will be with a new licensed engine. It will be set in a new Interplay world, not on a DnD world.</em></blockquote>This is substantially supported by the reports at <a href="http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=17280&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0" target="_blank">Worthplaying</a> and <a href="http://www.gamegossip.com/comment.php?id=7050" target="_blank">GameGossip</a>:<blockquote><em>Brief mentions of next-generation platforms aside, the conference call also cleared up a bit of confusion on the situation with Atari and Interplay with respect to Dungeons & Dragons. Specifically, Interplay revealed that it will be creating another game in its Dark Alliance series, with the next game being based on a world that isn’t in the Dungeons & Dragons universe, as Atari has that license. Of course the biggest bit of news was the revelation that Interplay plans on publishing Fallout 3. While details weren’t put forth, Inteplay did state that an external studio will be working on the title. Check back with us for more news as today wraps up.</em></blockquote>Right. A new action Fallout title but *not* a direct F:BoS sequel, FO3 from an unnamed 3rd party, no BG3 from Interplay and the BG: Dark Alliance series will move away from D&D to a new setting. Got it? |
Thu Apr 15, 2004 12:03 pm |
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Wolfgarou
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There are plans to publish Fallout 3 for the PC through an external studio
External studio? Bioware or Obsidian? Can't be The Fall's dev team since they're already working on a post apocalyptic game. The great thing is, there will be another Fallout game Hope the external team can pull it off.
Oh yeah, looks like Interplay SHOULD've cancelled FOBOS and NOT FALLOUT3.
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Baldur's Gate 3 is definitely no longer Interplay's, leaving them with Dark Alliance games
Anybody has confirmation that Atari will release BG3?
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They will not do a sequel for Fallout Brotherhood of Steel (gee, maybe it flopped?), but will do another Action/RPG-crossbreed console game in the Fallout world. Plans on this are a bit shady, not sure which engine to use.
Yup. FOBOS flopped big time. Maybe a Fallout FPS now for te consoles ala Deus Ex?
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The next Dark Alliance game will be with a new licensed engine. It will be set in a new Interplay world, not on a DnD world.
How can it be Baldur's Gate:Dark Alliance 3 without being DnD? Unless it's Dark Alliance: <title> but then, didn't BG:DA2 didn't close up the story? _________________ The world is small, nasty and complicated, and everybody dies alone... - Sam Fisher |
Thu Apr 15, 2004 12:11 pm |
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corwin
On the Razorblade of Life
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I wonder how many ex BIS staffers will be working for that external studio? Will they be given all the work previously done by Josh and his team? _________________ If God said it, then that settles it!
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Thu Apr 15, 2004 1:46 pm |
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quote: Originally posted by Wolfgarou
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There are plans to publish Fallout 3 for the PC through an external studio
Bioware or Obsidian?
I doubt it. Bioware probably won't do any business with interpay again and the people at Obsidian also shouldn't have much love for interplay considering where they come from. |
Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:15 pm |
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Anoniminator
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TROIKA GAMES! |
Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:32 pm |
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The Shaman
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After ToEE, why anyone would want Troika to touch the most holy Fallout is a mystery. |
Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:53 am |
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Gorath
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Bioware is no option. They´re playing in a different league. Fallout is not interesting for a company focused on AAA RPGs. _________________ Webmaster GothicDot |
Fri Apr 16, 2004 4:34 am |
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Well, Troika didn't do too bad with Arcanum. ToEE was less forgiveable. However, Bloodlines is looking quite interesting, so we'll see what happens with them. |
Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:53 am |
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Wolfgarou
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I prefer if another developer other than Troika finish up Fallout3. After playing thru Arcanum and TToE, it seems that Troika are not very creative on the quests in their games. Most of them are the Fed-Ex type quests and they seem to get old after awhile (yes yes, I know Bioware rpgs have Fed-Ex quests too, but at least they made them interesting). And after 2 buggy releases, I somehow lost hope in Troika, at least until Bloodlines _________________ The world is small, nasty and complicated, and everybody dies alone... - Sam Fisher |
Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:06 am |
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Arma
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Joined: 24 Oct 2003
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And would prefer if people didn't judje for upcomig titles by previous work of the studios. I mean if I look at the Silver Style roster, I see there the altogether crappy game Gorasul : Legacy of the Dracon, but I don't lose faith that The Fall will be a good game, as may be Fallout 3 if they do it, and that is what I hear these days. |
Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:01 pm |
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quote: Originally posted by Gorath
Bioware is no option. They´re playing in a different league. Fallout is not interesting for a company focused on AAA RPGs.
Yes it`s a diferent league altogether. They don`t do mature and deep RPGs, with an accent on gameplay, but adventure games in the starwars world and martial arts games for a console/teenager public. They produce mainstream use it and leave it stuff, let`s not put them in working in a classic like Fallout, that`s for RPG bigboys, not adventure games for consoles developers. |
Fri Apr 16, 2004 7:45 pm |
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The Shaman
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quote: Originally posted by Anonymous
quote: Originally posted by Gorath
Bioware is no option. They´re playing in a different league. Fallout is not interesting for a company focused on AAA RPGs.
Yes it`s a diferent league altogether. They don`t do mature and deep RPGs, with an accent on gameplay, but adventure games in the starwars world and martial arts games for a console/teenager public. They produce mainstream use it and leave it stuff, let`s not put them in working in a classic like Fallout, that`s for RPG bigboys, not adventure games for consoles developers.
RPG elitism gets you nowhere. |
Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:57 am |
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Roqua
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quote: Originally posted by Anonymous
quote: Originally posted by Gorath
Bioware is no option. They´re playing in a different league. Fallout is not interesting for a company focused on AAA RPGs.
Yes it`s a diferent league altogether. They don`t do mature and deep RPGs, with an accent on gameplay, but adventure games in the starwars world and martial arts games for a console/teenager public. They produce mainstream use it and leave it stuff, let`s not put them in working in a classic like Fallout, that`s for RPG bigboys, not adventure games for consoles developers.
I'm with you on bad gameplay with NWN, but KoToR's gameplay wasn't bad--it was just way to easy and linear. Both games had a pretty deep story, and that carries a lot of weight (like with PS:T). I think Fallout focused on all of the aspects that are important to an RPG, which makes it such a great game that everyone seemed to like.
Thats why I would hate for someone to develope it that would detract from the things that are most important to me--TB tactical combat, the ability to gimp your character, detailed character creation and development that reward the thinking player and punish people who do not like to think by having a gimped character, etc.. Those things do not go over well with the mainstream public, or even most rpg fans I'm guessing. They don't care that every other game being made has none of these elements, they just want every game to have none of them. This is probably the only good sequal TB fans will ever have for the rest of eternity, yet people still want it to be RT.
I am with you on what you are saying though. If you don't want to put some thought into character creation, character development, and combat then why are you playing rpgs? Other people say ToEE isn't an RPG because it was very story-light and an RPG has to have be story centered. I think there is definitly a big devide in what people are willing to accept as an rpg. I have my own thoughts on what an rpg is, and I have my own tatse and preferences on how I would like all rpgs to be. They don't always match up, but I stopped caring. _________________ Vegitarian is the Indian word for lousey hunter. |
Sat Apr 17, 2004 6:43 am |
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Wolfgarou
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quote: Originally posted by The Shaman
quote: Originally posted by Anonymous
quote: Originally posted by Gorath
Bioware is no option. They´re playing in a different league. Fallout is not interesting for a company focused on AAA RPGs.
Yes it`s a diferent league altogether. They don`t do mature and deep RPGs, with an accent on gameplay, but adventure games in the starwars world and martial arts games for a console/teenager public. They produce mainstream use it and leave it stuff, let`s not put them in working in a classic like Fallout, that`s for RPG bigboys, not adventure games for consoles developers.
RPG elitism gets you nowhere.
Totally agree with you. Since when Bioware wasn't hardcore enough? I thought BG2 was/is regarded as the best modern-day RPG by hardcores??? Wasn't NWN made for RPG-elites who play PnP D&D (the multiplayer component, not single player)? KoToR and JE are consoles, so don't count them in please. Bioware will release a new PC rpg soon, so let's let them show what they can do before judging them badly. _________________ The world is small, nasty and complicated, and everybody dies alone... - Sam Fisher |
Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:42 am |
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Gorath started the elitism bit, confusing the capability of doing mainstream games with doing AAA games altogether, and the Fallout RPGs were AAA games, with great "TB tactical combat, the ability to gimp your character, detailed character creation and development that reward the thinking player and punish people who do not like to think by having a gimped character"(thanks couldn`t have said it better).
KOTOR is good game, but it isn`t hardcore RPGing like Gothic2 and much less than the Fallout games. The BG series didn`t grant enough real choices (you could play other characters, but things would turn out pretty much the same way) to be considered hardcore either. It has a place in RPG history, but let`s not turn it on what it isn`t.
So i stand for the opinion that they don`t have what it takes to make a good Fallout game, while they are perfectly capable of delievering good and satisfying games, with a bigger accent on adventure and less on role-play. |
Sat Apr 17, 2004 12:43 pm |
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