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Uriziel
Grand Mage
Joined: 17 May 2002
Posts: 735
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quote:
Originally posted by Gorath
You downloaded the add-on and youīre playing it without paying for it. You could have ordered it from Germany, like many other forum members, but you decided to steal it instead.
And it is a shame the people here rewarded the publishers for their behaviour. Why should they change if they get the money anyway
Piracy is not tolerated on RPGDot because it can harm our relations to developers and publishers.
I agree
Especially PB will be happy about your behaviour, now that they have agreed we put the language mod online at RPGDot.
I'm sure PB agrees with me. I doubt they like the way the release has been handled. My actions made NO monetary difference to PB because they have already been paid for their great work.
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Kiwi Boy
High Emperor
Joined: 03 Jan 2003
Posts: 1086
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quote:
Originally posted by Gorath
Especially PB will be happy about your behaviour, now that they have agreed we put the language mod online at RPGDot.
What do you mean? Is it a sarcasm? |
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Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:22 pm |
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Gorath
Mostly Harmless
Joined: 03 Sep 2001
Posts: 6327
Location: NRW, Germany |
Yes.
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Jabberwocky
Noble Knight
Joined: 06 Nov 2003
Posts: 208
Location: New York, USA |
I feel like someone should support Gorath on this (not that you need it Gorath  )
Yes, Uriziel, I see your point and you are probably correct to assume that PB got every cent coming to them, and that most CD cracks are used for piracy and nothing else, but the simple fact that you're right does not change the fact that Piracy is illegal, and as Gorath stated, will only serve to worsen things, not better them. Gorath I'm sure like all of us, is a little concerned about how the publishers will react to the English translation mod, and is quick to make sure that no one thinks we tolerate questionable practices, which could endanger the mod's availability. He probably posted these warnings directly on this forum to make sure that anyone (including pubs) knows that RPGdot maintains a strict policy on such matters, not rather, to embarrass or upset the target(s) of the warnings.
@ Uriziel: Your response to this situation was bad form indeed for a 41 year-old man. You claim to NOT be some young punk behind a keyboard was negated by the rant full of profanity and sarcasm.
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Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:44 pm |
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Kiwi Boy
High Emperor
Joined: 03 Jan 2003
Posts: 1086
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quote:
Originally posted by Gorath
Yes.
Still don't get it. So, according to PB, is it considered "okay" to use the mod? I remembered you strongly discouraged the use of G2 translation mod back then, and I was quite suprised you permit the use of the addon translation right now.
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Originally posted by Jabberwocky
He probably posted these warnings directly on this forum to make sure that anyone (including pubs) knows that RPGdot maintains a strict policy on such matters, not rather, to embarrass or upset the target(s) of the warnings.
Not either, but both. Criminals are well deserved for such embarrassment.
Uriziel, you seemed to claim that the publishers should not be rewarded due to the lack of announcement for the release. However, will PB even consider developing the game if they did not get any financial and marketing support from the publisher? If not, to whom should we thank and reward? Think again. |
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Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:31 pm |
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Gorath
Mostly Harmless
Joined: 03 Sep 2001
Posts: 6327
Location: NRW, Germany |
PB decided to tolerate the mod for the time being, but they reserved the right to reconsider this if/when the English add-on is released.
FYI: Some fans did a similar mod for Transport Giant. JoWooD stoped it to protect their foreign publishers.
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Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:41 am |
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Daedalus
High Emperor
Joined: 04 Jan 2002
Posts: 2516
Location: Estonia |
well at least we got the translation and if there will be no english addon then we still can play the game with the mod and get the full story maybe not with voices but its better than nothing |
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Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:45 pm |
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Jackie
Guards Lieutenant
Joined: 30 May 2004
Posts: 172
Location: Hellas (greece) |
If they will start to release addon in other contries it's possible to do that for US!> Isnt it?? |
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Wed Jul 14, 2004 2:03 pm |
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SimCity
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 07 May 2004
Posts: 26
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quote:
Originally posted by Jackie
If they will start to release addon in other contries it's possible to do that for US!> Isnt it??
Yes. The first sign of NotR coming out in the U.S. would be a sudden new publisher they sign on with. It means they're getting ready to do some stuff.  |
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Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:50 pm |
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Gorath
Mostly Harmless
Joined: 03 Sep 2001
Posts: 6327
Location: NRW, Germany |
The situation didnīt change. PB has nothing to do with the international release.
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Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:50 pm |
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Kiwi Boy
High Emperor
Joined: 03 Jan 2003
Posts: 1086
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quote:
Originally posted by SimCity
quote:
Originally posted by Jackie
If they will start to release addon in other contries it's possible to do that for US!> Isnt it??
Yes. The first sign of NotR coming out in the U.S. would be a sudden new publisher they sign on with. It means they're getting ready to do some stuff.
Atari already signed the distribution rights for the Gothic 2 series and they decided not to ship the addon to the United States. The decision is final, so don't expect any change unless something extraordinary happens.
Stop dreaming. |
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Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:03 am |
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JDR13
Magister of the Light
Joined: 16 Apr 2002
Posts: 376
Location: Michigan, United States |
Who cares about a US release? All we need is a UK release and we can still get it. A UK release is far more likely anyways. |
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Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:30 am |
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SimCity
Eager Tradesman
Joined: 07 May 2004
Posts: 26
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quote:
Originally posted by Gorath
The situation didnīt change. PB has nothing to do with the international release.
Thanks Gorath. I'll keep my fingers crossed. If it would happen to come out in the UK though, that is just fine for me. |
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Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:31 am |
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MageofFire
Griller of Molerats
Joined: 03 Oct 2003
Posts: 1594
Location: Monastery of Innos |
quote:
Originally posted by JDR13
Who cares about a US release? All we need is a UK release and we can still get it. A UK release is far more likely anyways.
I care about the US release because I have the US version of Gothic 2 and I don't want to have to buy the UK version of both just to get the addon.
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Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:51 am |
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JDR13
Magister of the Light
Joined: 16 Apr 2002
Posts: 376
Location: Michigan, United States |
quote:
Originally posted by MageofFire
quote:
Originally posted by JDR13
Who cares about a US release? All we need is a UK release and we can still get it. A UK release is far more likely anyways.
I care about the US release because I have the US version of Gothic 2 and I don't want to have to buy the UK version of both just to get the addon.
If it's possible to install the German NOTR over an English Gothic 2, then I'm pretty sure it'll be possible to install a UK NOTR over a US Gothic 2.
You can't be that picky at this point, just hope it gets released in English! Who cares if you have to spend a few extra dollars!?! Sheesh! |
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