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I finally finished the game... It still leaves alot of questions open.
How exactly was the Sleeper connected to the barrier?
If the orcs created the Sleeper, shouldnt the shamans who created him be more powerful?
What happens to The Sect?
What happens to Xardas?
After I charged Urizel, I went and killed the mages... I wonder if Gothic 2 will assume they're dead.
And there were a couple artififacts in the game that needed to be charged with 'a power almost as strong as the barrier'. So, shouldn't it be that if you inserted all of those into the barrier, it'd drain the energy?
Does the New Camp go and take over the fort of the Old Camp after their guards have been massacred?
Is the Free Mine ever put fully back into operation?
If the New Camp really wanted to use the ore, why not just blow up the mine? Much more power... Sure, it wouldnt work according to Xardas, but it'd be fuuun  |
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Val
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Originally posted by Anonymous
I finally finished the game... It still leaves alot of questions open.
How exactly was the Sleeper connected to the barrier?
My theory: The Sleeper's power originally disrupted the creation of the barrier and it became bigger than it should have been. The Sleeper's energy feed the barrier and keep it going at it's enlarged size. When the Sleeper was removed from that plane of existance the barrier lost it's power source and could no longer maintain it's present size. Therefore, it collapsed.
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If the orcs created the Sleeper, shouldnt the shamans who created him be more powerful?
They summoned the Sleeper, they didn't create it.
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What happens to The Sect?
We'll find out in Gothic 2. I assume they escaped the barrier like everyone else. Whether or not they decided to maintain their faith or refocus on a different faith is up in the air. Or, if there was an earthquake, they could have been swept away by a tidal wave. They were right next to the ocean. And half the New Camp could have been killed by the collapse to the great cave and Peasents washed away when the dam breaks. 
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What happens to Xardas?
Again, we'll find out in Gothic 2.
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Originally posted by Anonymous
After I charged Urizel, I went and killed the mages... I wonder if Gothic 2 will assume they're dead.
We'll find out in Gothic 2 when we play it.
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Originally posted by Anonymous
And there were a couple artififacts in the game that needed to be charged with 'a power almost as strong as the barrier'. So, shouldn't it be that if you inserted all of those into the barrier, it'd drain the energy?
Not necessarily. The barrier could simply drain the energy from the item instead.
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Originally posted by Anonymous
Does the New Camp go and take over the fort of the Old Camp after their guards have been massacred?
I would assume they simply leave. That was their main goal. Why go through the effort of taking that camp when they can now leave?
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Is the Free Mine ever put fully back into operation?
Well, the New Camp had all the ore it needed. They just lacked enough mages to put their plan into action. I would assume that the King would attempt to recapture the mine in Gothic 2 and put it back in operation.
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Originally posted by Anonymous
If the New Camp really wanted to use the ore, why not just blow up the mine? Much more power... Sure, it wouldnt work according to Xardas, but it'd be fuuun
Again, they didn't have the enough mages. Also, the blast would be muffled by the tons of rock and ultimately prove ineffective in my opinion.
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Val
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Look at the lay of the land. It's on the same coastline as the shipwreck. Either it's next to an ocean or a sea.
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Krzychu
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I think Val's theory about the barrier is true,
but if Sleeper kept the barrier working then he wanted something not
to get out of the colony...It would make more sense if the barrier would'nt
let anyone get inside the colony so the Sleeper would'nt be
bothered by more people than those who are already in...
[ but then again why he made the barrier bigger? was it a mistake?]
and when he is fully powerfull and he awakes, disables the barrier
and goes to enslave humanity and rule the world..heh but if the barrier
was'nt letting anyone outside then hm....uh.. this is too confusing 
any ideas? [ I have a headache...]
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Val
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Look at it this way: Could the Sleeper have predicted a bunch of silly human mages were going to erect a magical barrier? No. So, the Sleeper is sitting on his little platform minding his own business (and plotting to take over the world) when all of a sudden there is a huge magical disturbance. Now, the barrier needs to draw magical energy from somewhere right? Well let's say the Sleeper is a nice little other-worldly magic battery. Suddenly the barrier has a nice big power source and it grows to a huge size. The Sleeper could not stop energy being siphoned away. That's why the Sleeper could not break free and could not easily contact people. All of it's energy was being drained away. So, the Sleeper manages to get a cult started. By gathering a lot of followers it could draw on their energy to break free (in theory). How's this for confusing?
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sauron38
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Isn't there an earthquake that destroys the barrier?
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Moonslash
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If the people inside the barrier are smart enough to find out that there really are certain "holes" on the barrier (the hero is able to get out without dying), they won't need to do those complicated stuff like getting rid of the Sleeper, blowing up the ore mound, etc.
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Mon Jun 03, 2002 10:35 pm |
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Urnakh
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Originally posted by Anonymous
What happens to Xardas?
If i got it right on the gothic2 page Xardas is now trying to conquer the world and you've to stop him... Actually my megalomanic g1 char would like to join Xardas in his quest. |
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Tue Jun 04, 2002 2:45 am |
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DzD
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Originally posted by sauron38
Isn't there an earthquake that destroys the barrier?
No, it is the barrier that creates a earthquake.
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If i got it right on the gothic2 page Xardas is now trying to conquer the world and you've to stop him... Actually my megalomanic g1 char would like to join Xardas in his quest.
If I got it right Xardas was possesed or something like that and then he was trying to make a whole to another world bigger so that the ruler of that world could get through the portal.
That is what i think, but now I got a little confused.
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Krzychu
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I think that we should take all these questions and problems to PB 
but...nah!! That would spoil all the fun of thinking about it...
About Xardas.. I think that the Sleeper in his last seconds when he sees that he failed, he uses his last powers on Xardas to posses him...
but I would'nt like to fight with Xardas in G 2... after all he is a nice guy...
[when you dont question too much his words...]
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Originally posted by Krzychu
I think that we should take all these questions and problems to PB
but...nah!! That would spoil all the fun of thinking about it...
About Xardas.. I think that the Sleeper in his last seconds when he sees that he failed, he uses his last powers on Xardas to posses him...
but I would'nt like to fight with Xardas in G 2... after all he is a nice guy...
[when you dont question too much his words...]
The Sleeper is stonedead. He canīt do a thing.
The Sleeper will not be in Gothic II.  
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Krzychu
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Originally posted by DzD
The Sleeper is stonedead. He canīt do a thing.
The Sleeper will not be in Gothic II.
Hm but maybe his son Creeper will be or maybe even his brother Geezer
Btw: I wonder how much and how exactly the Sleeper was connected to
the crawlers.. he looked like one himself...
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DzD
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Originally posted by Krzychu
quote:
Originally posted by DzD
The Sleeper is stonedead. He canīt do a thing.
The Sleeper will not be in Gothic II.
Hm but maybe his son Creeper will be or maybe even his brother Geezer
Btw: I wonder how much and how exactly the Sleeper was connected to
the crawlers.. he looked like one himself...
Maybe he was the Minecrawler King.
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