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Who will be U.S president
Bush
53%
 53%  [ 16 ]
Kerry
46%
 46%  [ 14 ]
Total Votes : 30

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Ok, you might have missed it but I'm going to be the 3rd canidate since I don't want Bush or Kerry either.

I changed my mind, I will do things. I will make everybody work in a federal video game publishing factory, which will be conveniently donated by every major publisher in America (EA, Eidos, Atari of North America, etc...), for 5 hours a week in return for being able to choose 3 new games of their choice every month for free. All other publishers outside of America will be classified as terrorist organizations and will be dealt with appropriatly. With America having the only major publishing factories we will sell games to other countries with a slightly decreased prices to increase sales. This will help our economy and help with the federal budget. By 2015 (I wont ever be removed from office) we will have started a small base on the moon. by 2020 I plan on having the moon completely hollowed out and turned into a supercomputer to host a new, better, worldwide network made specifically for games.

Thats about it for now...

Vote for gamer's freedom, vote for Korplem!

EDIT: Readability.
EDIT2: *kisses some babies*
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Post Tue Mar 09, 2004 10:37 am
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Who has the less bloodthirsty councelors?
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Ironic that there's more opinions from non-Americans...

Although I'm a staunch republican, I'm afraid Kerry might win. People tend to hear what they want to hear (as opposed to the facts), and Kerry is more than happy to tell anyone and everyone what they want to hear. Unless the press decides to highlight his repeated flip-flops (media pick on a democrat? Not in this lifetime ), people won't take note.
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Post Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:59 pm
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Jobless economy: This is due to globilization and profit maximization and the unflexibility of wages. Levis just closed the last two of its 65 factories it had in America just so it could stay competetive. Microsoft moving jobs off shore, Dell moving jobs off shore. China is now considered a stable government. India is a bussiness paradise. The only thing America has to offer now is capital. Other countries like India will copy our 401k program and will have the capital, the jobs, and highly educated and hungry work force, and then will take over America's role of economic super-power.

What could Kerry do to fix this? Make Americans buy American made products to keep jobs in America? Raise tarriffs unbelievable high? Or start inflation so the dollar will be worth far less while wages stay the same so we can at least consider our wages semi-reasonable? But every solution creates another host of problems. High inflation will lower the inflexible wages but will really hurt people saviong for retirememnt etc.

Both Democrats and Republicans got us where we are today. Dems on the labor side, and reps on the business. They both screwed us in the ass with their short term choices that play off the stupidity of the masses. We are all screwed. But I can pay more or less taxes while being screwed so I'll vote for Bush to pay less. Even though I hate Bush and I'm from Massachusetts, I hate the bleeding heart tax raisers more. I want my damn money.
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Post Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:55 pm
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I read in a Tom Clancy book that 80% of the American people have an already fixed vote. 40% republican and 40% democratic, the other 20% is the one that needs to be convinced. This means that even a Hitler/Stalin type at either party would have the support of 40% of the American people. From what I've read at some posts, I have to concure with this.

Bush's foreign affairs were a complete disaster. It's like in the most ridiculous American movies. Every country has to obey our rules except us. You see that in the movie with Samuel L. Jackson as army guy.(forgot the title) They make it sound okay that when you feel in danger you can open fire at an open crowd. I know there's sth as selfdefence, but a military unit is for me sth to avoid conflict. Can't understand why they let it sound that he was the victim. This person killed people. For me it will never be OK to kill any kind of people. Even not some guy as Marc Dutroux.(Those guys need to be locked up, no doubt, but to end any human life: NO!)
This movie is now played in real life by the Bush administration. We are good, others are bad. IMO, there's no group of good or bad people. Only misguided people. I see this in America as I see this in Iran. And Bush what does he do? He makes it even worse to live in peace and makes America target nr1 for terrorists. (I'm not talking about Afghanistan. That was actually a good thing)
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quote:
Originally posted by dteowner
Ironic that there's more opinions from non-Americans...

Ironic?I think the word you were searching is Worrying.
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quote:
Originally posted by Bartacus
And Bush what does he do? He makes it even worse to live in peace and makes America target nr1 for terrorists. (I'm not talking about Afghanistan. That was actually a good thing)
Heaven knows sticking our heads in the sand with doves flying out our kiesters did such a wonderful job preventing 9-11. Keep in mind that planning for that act was being done before Bush even took office. Heck, even Clinton was moved to bomb Saddam while he was in charge. That's gotta tell you something.

I saw a cartoon a couple weeks ago that I thought put the whole Iraq thing into perspective- Kerry was sitting in the Oval Office (the doves flying out of his "out box" was a nice touch). An aide, standing next to him, notes the mushroom cloud thru the window, and says "I guess we have definite proof of WMDs now."

Edit- A picture's worth a thousand words and all. Here's the cartoon
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Post Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:48 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by Bartacus
I read in a Tom Clancy book that 80% of the American people have an already fixed vote. 40% republican and 40% democratic, the other 20% is the one that needs to be convinced. This means that even a Hitler/Stalin type at either party would have the support of 40% of the American people. From what I've read at some posts, I have to concure with this.

Bush's foreign affairs were a complete disaster. It's like in the most ridiculous American movies. Every country has to obey our rules except us. You see that in the movie with Samuel L. Jackson as army guy.(forgot the title) They make it sound okay that when you feel in danger you can open fire at an open crowd. I know there's sth as selfdefence, but a military unit is for me sth to avoid conflict. Can't understand why they let it sound that he was the victim. This person killed people. For me it will never be OK to kill any kind of people. Even not some guy as Marc Dutroux.(Those guys need to be locked up, no doubt, but to end any human life: NO!)
This movie is now played in real life by the Bush administration. We are good, others are bad. IMO, there's no group of good or bad people. Only misguided people. I see this in America as I see this in Iran. And Bush what does he do? He makes it even worse to live in peace and makes America target nr1 for terrorists. (I'm not talking about Afghanistan. That was actually a good thing)


Did you see the whole movie? His men were being killed, and he shouldn't of opened fire? He should of just sucked it up? If you had a weapon and someone was trying to kill you, you would stand there?

Or the loss of life on the Americans part is acceptible because they were Americans? So Americans can and should be killed with no retribution? We should meekly accept being shot at and killed and just try and defend the lifes that are not yet killed? That is rediculous.

No shots would have been fired if the troops were not fired upon first. No lives would have been lost if the embassy was not attacked. To expect any people to meekly accept being killed is rediculous. Unless you want to be inslaved or exiled like the Tibetans.
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quote:
Originally posted by Hexy

At the same time, the U.S. IS a part of the UN, and thusly has some rules to follow. Not that Bush has cared about them, but still, if you set the rules it often looks better to follow them as well.


What has the UN done for us? UN is run mostly by Dictators. Also the most annoying part is that. Lybia, Iran, and Cuba. Are on the Human Rights Commission. Hell Iraq was almost a member of the UN's Nuclear Watchdog group! UN is mainly anti-Israeli and Anti-American. I bet New York would love extra office space. Also the NYPD would love to get those damn annoying UN Ambassadors out too.
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I still think Arnie is the better choice.
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quote:

Heaven knows sticking our heads in the sand with doves flying out our kiesters did such a wonderful job preventing 9-11. Keep in mind that planning for that act was being done before Bush even took office. Heck, even Clinton was moved to bomb Saddam while he was in charge. That's gotta tell you something.



Ummm, what does 9-11 have to do with Saddam? I remember Bush trying to link Al-Quaida to Iraq, but that got shot down pretty fast, no?

quote:

I saw a cartoon a couple weeks ago that I thought put the whole Iraq thing into perspective- Kerry was sitting in the Oval Office (the doves flying out of his "out box" was a nice touch). An aide, standing next to him, notes the mushroom cloud thru the window, and says "I guess we have definite proof of WMDs now."



This one is also pretty funny!

http://www.bushbacklash.com/NewFiles/Images/thanks-anyway.jpg

quote:

What has the UN done for us? UN is run mostly by Dictators. Also the most annoying part is that. Lybia, Iran, and Cuba. Are on the Human Rights Commission. Hell Iraq was almost a member of the UN's Nuclear Watchdog group! UN is mainly anti-Israeli and Anti-American. I bet New York would love extra office space. Also the NYPD would love to get those damn annoying UN Ambassadors out too.



Uh... yeah, the UN is mostly run by dictators, since the US is one of those who run it, right? The US was even one of those who took the initiative to create it. As for the Human Rights Commision; hello Guantanamo Bay...
Yeah, the US doesn't need the world! Right...
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If we're going to go that direction, I'd think Jesse Ventura would fit the bill nicely (plus he can legally hold the job).

Why not give the job to Val? The Infamous Chipper/Shredder might do wonders for Washington gridlock.
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quote:
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Ummm, what does 9-11 have to do with Saddam? I remember Bush trying to link Al-Quaida to Iraq, but that got shot down pretty fast, no?

Two seperate thoughts there-
1) Bush's policies did not provoke terrorism in general
2) Saddam clearly was no "innocent victim" of Bush policy

I probably should have quoted the specific lines of Bartacus' that prompted the response. I'm not ruling out the Iraq-terrorism link, but that's a different discussion than this one. Sorry for the confusion.
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quote:

Two seperate thoughts there-
1) Bush's policies did not provoke terrorism in general
2) Saddam clearly was no "innocent victim" of Bush policy



The first one sold him WMDs, the second one tried to destroy him because of that. No innocent victim...
As for terrorism in Iraq, the only thing they have in common is that terrorism has risen in Iraq ever since the war. Bush's policies did nothing to provoke terrorism indeed!
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I have stayed out of most political topics for a while, because it just got pretty nasty and time consuming, and counterproductive. I seldom do short posts. The political convo is with alot of socialists in different socialist countries, so inevitably felt I was spinning my wheels altogether and decided it wasnt worth the effort. Ive got better things to do, and I come here for a different purrpose entirely. But, I might as well weigh in on this one-

Kerry just has no solid positions on anything, he takes both sides on every issue. Well, he does have one rock-solid position I guess, and that is this: He hates Bush, and America is a miserable place to live. In fact, he hates Bush more than anyone else does. Everything Bush has done in office has been bad. Everything Bush says is bad. In fact, everything Bush has ever done in his entire life is bad! Bush is Satan incarnate! The American people are on the brink of revolt, in soup lines, working for pennies! Thus will be his downfall... you cannot run an election on hatred and negativity alone.That's all he has, he has no positive message whatsoever. He inspires nothing but hatred with the already-sold hateful Left. You see what happened to Howard Dean? No better recent example of someone letting sheer hatred and negativity alone guide him to his downfall. People all scratched their heads when Dean's real numbers hit and he was nowhere near the top, like they thought. The truth of the matter is, he was never at the top. Everyone who is guided merely by hatred and "who can replace that idiot" has a real big suprise coming in November. From people who seem to profess they hate noone, they sure do seem to hate Christian conservatives. The recent success of biblical-themed media is a snapshot of the real America they thought had shrunk to a small minority.

This "JFKerry" ought to take a page from a previous JFK and run on "things are ok, but you know, we can do them better." This constant onslaught of nothing but sheer hatred and sniping and negativity is going to backfire on him, big-time.This does not attract the crucial "swing-vote"they need. This dismal portrayal of America as some Great Depression-era, miserable place to live where most children go to bed hungry every night, seniors are booted from their homes and starve to death, and blacks are on the run from roving bands of whites is just hilarious and untrue. And outdated, to say the least. For being supposedly "progressive", it's strange the Democrat platform has not changed in 50 years. Listening to this guy speak, you'd think we are all actually living in 1920's Alabama. Sorry Kerry, Im working class and so is my entire family. We are far from rich, like you. We are middle-class and we are doing just fine. In fact, I got a thousand bucks back on my taxes this year! I like tax cuts, and so do most people who pay taxes. Most people believe in rewarding achievement and hard work, not punishing or casting them as suspect. Most people want to keep more of what they earn. Most people, anyway.. except for people like Kerry who already have their millions.

I think Saddam and his sicko sons out of power is a good thing. So do the majority of Americans. And so did you, Mr Kerry, when there was a Democrat running the White House. Never heard a word about Serbia, or Haiti. Right or wrong, however you see the issues of war and peace that face us, people do not want to hear their country and president constantly run down. And such an obvious double standard is very unattractive. Railing against cutting the military, when he presided over some of the biggest cuts ever. Flaunting his "Vietnam War Hero" status, after practically calling vets genocidal babykilling nuts over his lifetime. One of the richest men in the senate railing against any business that shows any profit whatsoever, as evil. This guy isnt even a challenge, he is a mess of contradictions, as is the modern Left here in the States.They just never learn. So far, with this defeatist, negative, hateful philosphy of theirs they have lost the Senate, the House of Representatives, and most governorships. Everyone is eyeing the next Presidential race, but the real stakes are the congressional races. With this current modus operendi of theirs, I hope the Democrats are prepared to be in the minority for a decade and beyond. And they shouldnt even entertain the notion of a President Kerry, because frankly, not even they like him. They just hate Bush, that's all.
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