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| Who will be U.S president |
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| Kerry |
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Bartacus
Il Buono

Joined: 24 May 2003
Posts: 4706
Location: Belgium Flemmish part |
quote: Originally posted by xSamhainx
Bartacus, the reason why you liked Clinton so much on foreign policy, is because he didnt DO ANYTHING! LOL! He was so great on foreign policy, that the North Koreans are now the wonderful gulag nation with nukes. He did so great with foreign policy, that he refused Bin Laden as a prisoner, twice! The guy did a great job in Haiti too, didnt he? Took out those maniacal Serbs, sure glad for that one. He also attacked Iraq as well, but noone seems to mind that. People dont seem too ticked off that he shot down the holy Kyoto protocol as well. Wheres all this great Clinton foreign policy? We just lay down and die? Offer our throats to the enemy? Saladin laughs at you from beyond the grave, as his new soldiers sharpen their swords.
Are you f**king dumb. He brought peace while Bush only brought war. Haïti wouldn't have been a problem, if the US and France wouldn't hold back the money Haïti is intitled for. They hold back 500 miljon dollars nescessary for the social system. Then they say Aristide has to leave the country when +70% of the population still supports the president. Get your stories straight, man.
Secondly Clinton has been able to put up a dialogue between Arafat and Sharon. What does Bush do, he says one side is a terrorist side and the other is the good one. This is not sth another country can decide! North Korea responded to the into their eyes agressive American threath of Bush foreign politics. They restarted their programs under the Bush administration, not under Clinton's.
The Kyoto norm was shot by Bush again and not by Clinton. Bush was elected by the support of the chemical, oil and energy supply industry. Logical that they won't contribute, cause their profits would go down. Bush even said this: "It is not proven that there is a global warming at hand, so I won't take actions that will hurt our economy. The cost of gas and electricity would rise and I won't allow that." _________________ Moderator and Council Magician of the RPGDot Shadows
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Sat Mar 13, 2004 4:17 pm |
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Korplem
Swashbuckler

Joined: 23 Dec 2002
Posts: 853
Location: Pearl Harbor, HI |
quote: Originally posted by Roqua
Does anyone read my posts or does the length make you skip it?
I'm sad to admit that I read them.  _________________ If soot stains your tunic, dye it black. This is vengeance.
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Sat Mar 13, 2004 5:36 pm |
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Val
Risen From Ashes

Joined: 18 Feb 2002
Posts: 14724
Location: Utah, USA |
You're out of line, Bartacus. Cool off or you'll get a warning. Calling people dumb will not win you this debate.
@Roqua: I read your posts. It's my job.
@Hexy: Now that's a new spin. He had no plans to use it that election year. In other words, he wouldn't use it in his support of other candidates in 2002. As for the firefighters, that's the union. Of course the union is going to get all huffy, they support Kerry.
No, it's okay for him to not reveal information which may damage national security. _________________ Freeeeeeedom! Thank heavens it's summer!
What do I have to show for my hard work? A piece of paper! Wee!
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Sat Mar 13, 2004 8:42 pm |
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Hexy
High Emperor


Joined: 28 Jun 2002
Posts: 621
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quote: Originally posted by Val
Now that's a new spin. He had no plans to use it that election year. In other words, he wouldn't use it in his support of other candidates in 2002.
The 2002 thing wasn't in the quote, though.
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As for the firefighters, that's the union. Of course the union is going to get all huffy, they support Kerry.
That doesn't make it right for Bush to use firefighters in ads they don't want to be in.
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No, it's okay for him to not reveal information which may damage national security.
A convenient excuse. There have been no real evidence that revealing what went on behind the scenes prior to and during 9-11 has any strong impact on national security. It may damage Bush, although keeping it a secret also does damage.
Oh well, hopefully the next documentary from Michael Moore will give some insight. _________________ Like some bold seer in a trance;
Seeing all his own mischance |
Sat Mar 13, 2004 9:46 pm |
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Roach
SBR Belfry Bat

Joined: 20 Jan 2002
Posts: 3233
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*Runs in the room*
"John Edwards!"
*Runs out of the room* |
Sat Mar 13, 2004 10:22 pm |
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Val
Risen From Ashes

Joined: 18 Feb 2002
Posts: 14724
Location: Utah, USA |
Nor was 2004. But you just assume that because it helps your arguement. Well, I can assume 2002 just as easily.
As I said earlier, there are victums of this on both sides of the issue. That includes firefighters.
Jimmy Boyle, former president of the of the Uniformed Firefighters Association said: "I don't think he's taking advantage of Sept. 11, and I feel he's given us the leadership that we need."
And you have evidence to the contrary?
I have yet to see anything from Michael Moore that gives any insight. _________________ Freeeeeeedom! Thank heavens it's summer!
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Sat Mar 13, 2004 11:24 pm |
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Bartacus
Il Buono

Joined: 24 May 2003
Posts: 4706
Location: Belgium Flemmish part |
quote: Originally posted by Val
You're out of line, Bartacus. Cool off or you'll get a warning. Calling people dumb will not win you this debate.
Sorry Val, I know I should have counted till ten before I written this post, but I got really annoyed when people are telling just bullshit stories.(read lies)
It's like saying Bush is dumb, cause he doesn't know the capital city of a certain European country. This doesn't matter. Do you think that any of our politicians can name all the states of the USA? Off course not. This why advisors are important.
Btw the most ridiculous lie came yet again out of the right corner of your society. Kerry was seeing Hannoi Jane. There was even a pic as prove. Unfortunately for the pthetic bastard that made the photo, it was discovered that the photo was artificially made. I mean I know that politicians always bend the truth, but just inventing it?
@Roach Congratulations for the without doubt funniest post in this thread. _________________ Moderator and Council Magician of the RPGDot Shadows
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Sat Mar 13, 2004 11:30 pm |
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Val
Risen From Ashes

Joined: 18 Feb 2002
Posts: 14724
Location: Utah, USA |
1. Quit swearing.
2. Who says he was lying?
3. That's not my society. _________________ Freeeeeeedom! Thank heavens it's summer!
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Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:14 am |
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Michael C
Black Dragon

Joined: 09 Jul 2001
Posts: 1595
Location: Aarhus, Denmark |
Bartacus, Bartacus, Bartacus, Relax man....
I'm personal closer to your opinion, You are probably right in my opinion, but it's not about right /wrong, it's about You not expressing your opinion in the boundaries of the house rules. No one can deny us to think what ever we like, but we still have to filter it down to the house rules. Just hit him with the obvious arguments instead of the personal attacks.
Take another 10 deep breaths (Nah better make a 100), and try again
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Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:31 pm |
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MageofFire
Griller of Molerats

Joined: 03 Oct 2003
Posts: 1594
Location: Monastery of Innos |
OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT!!! NO RULES!!! ANARCHY FOR ALL!!!
*sings* 'Cause I wanna beeeeeee. . . Anarchy!
Well, maybe not, but it's fun to say that.  _________________ OMG! WTF?! MONKEYS!!!!
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Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:15 am |
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