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Wait, I think I know the problem... big kabuto, have you gone *past* Gor Na Drak and the Templar into the cave and therefore into the Old Mine?
Because from your comments, somehow I don't think you have. |
Sat Jan 12, 2002 9:19 pm |
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bigkabuto
High Emperor


Joined: 14 Sep 2001
Posts: 591
Location: Holland/Groningen |
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On 2002-01-12 13:42, Anonymous wrote:
Ok, I'll just give you the whole thing in detail.
You're in chapter two, and Kalom has sent you for the minecrawler secretion. The mandibles aren't enough and you're sent to find the minecrawler nest.
You enter the Old Mine and walk down to the very bottom. You find a whinch that opens a gate. This is guarded by a named guard.
The named guard tells you he can't open the gate without permission from Ian.
You go speak to Ian. From the entrance of the Old Mine you climb down one level, then another. At this point you pass a named digger who asks you to distract a named guard that is guarding a chest. You go down one more level and Ian is there by the shop. The two Templars are one level below this.
Ian gives you a mission to find a gear wheel to replace a broken one.
Once you find this item for him he will give the OK to open the gate.
This is all done inside the Old Mine. If you still can't get it try something simpler . . . like checkers. This game is too hard for you.
ok, now i have the proof... it's all wrong..and don't go say bullshit like too hard for me..explain how i've gotten sofar then...don't diss me now..cause that makes no sense..allright
first of all..the firstpart about cor khalom and minecrawler secrection is true, here it goes wrong..when i arrive at the old mine with closed gate there's is NO guard guarding it AT ALL.
and the things you say after thatpart i don't know itcause..i can't even enter the old mine ,and there's NO guard there...we just misunderstand eachother..very weird..but you are talking aboutsomething very different . |
Sat Jan 12, 2002 9:32 pm |
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bigkabuto
High Emperor


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Posts: 591
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FINALLY anonymous ,we understand eachother..i tried all the time to make clear ican't get inthe cave , it's closed.,..and gor nadrak and that templar are standing andtalking there... |
Sat Jan 12, 2002 9:34 pm |
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bigkabuto
High Emperor


Joined: 14 Sep 2001
Posts: 591
Location: Holland/Groningen |
but even though we understandeachother..i'm still very stuck in thegame...cor told me gor na drak would be there at theold mine..that's true, but why won't the gate to thecave open when i use the winch??? |
Sat Jan 12, 2002 9:48 pm |
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That is a different person who posted as Anonymous last.
It doesn't matter if you go down to the bottom of the mine or not. Talking to Ian before or after works.
The Old Mine is in no way blocked off at this time. If you haven't gone inside that's not my fault. I named it in most of my posts. The Old Mine is not something I made up. This is what every NPC in the game calls that area.
The information I gave you is not all wrong. You are in the wrong place. I've told you where to go several times. Just go there.
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Sat Jan 12, 2002 9:52 pm |
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I assumed you went to the bottom of the mine since you talk about the winch. What winch are you using if not the one that is guarded at the bottom of the mine?
Either way I gave you instructions starting at the entrance to the mine. Just follow them. |
Sat Jan 12, 2002 9:53 pm |
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bigkabuto
High Emperor


Joined: 14 Sep 2001
Posts: 591
Location: Holland/Groningen |
that first anonymous person , understood me...he know what the problem is...when you go past gor na drak and the templar youwill see a winch on the right....right in front of you is the entrance to the cave...the entrance is closed ..on therightside ofthe wall at the entranch is a piece of ore on thewall.....that's what i amtalking about...where youare talking about..well i just can't go there..cause the ENTRANCE is closed..and using the winch there...doesn't help...it wont budge |
Sat Jan 12, 2002 10:03 pm |
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bigkabuto
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Posts: 591
Location: Holland/Groningen |
here take a look
http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/angryblonde18/lst?&.dir=/My+Photos&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
the gate is closed...tell me what the hell i'm doing wrong...
i know what the problem for you was..you understood my wrong... i couldn't even enter the cave...therefore not able toreach the area where that ian is..it's a entry inmy journal that i need ian to get a list...but i CAN'T ENTER DAMN FUCKING MINE AT ALL....could thisbea bug??? there is a gate infront of thecave asyou can see on the screenshot , and it's closed and it wont open by using thewinch..this really is killing me ....
[ This Message was edited by: bigkabuto on 2002-01-12 16:24 ] |
Sat Jan 12, 2002 10:14 pm |
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The link is broken. I can't see your screenshot.
Anyway I know where you mean. Those same two templars that are outside appear inside the mine right by Ian and I assumed when you spoke about the two templars and reaching the winch you were in the right place.
The outside winch does nothing that I know of. The mine entrance was never blocked for me. I've gone through that part of the game as a member of the brotherhood and the old camp. Did you join the new camp and betray the old camp's list to the new camp?
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Sat Jan 12, 2002 10:29 pm |
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bigkabuto
High Emperor


Joined: 14 Sep 2001
Posts: 591
Location: Holland/Groningen |
no, i belong to the swamp camp..i havent joined NC nor OC but this cave was always closed even when i just started the game. |
Sat Jan 12, 2002 10:39 pm |
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Ok look other Anonymous people, kabuto cant even enter the old mine. Your problem is odd, the mine was already open when i went to it. You sure it isnt already open? |
Sat Jan 12, 2002 10:59 pm |
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Ok look other Anonymous people, kabuto cant even enter the old mine. Your problem is odd, the mine was already open when i went to it. You sure it isnt already open? |
Sat Jan 12, 2002 11:11 pm |
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All the anonymous people are me except for two including the last post. We've established that he's outside thank you.
I assumed he was in when he was talking about the winch because the winch he's _supposed_ to be using is the one inside. The one outside shouldn't be touched.
It sounds to me like he closed it once and now it's stuck. I just made a new game and ran to the old mine. It is open from the start.
Did you close the gate yourself at some point and now it won't open? There is a bug where if you use a winch you shouldn't it may get stuck. If this is the case use the marvin cheats to get through.
Just enter the status screen by pressing 's', then type "marvin" and exit the status screen.
Get close to the gate and press 'k' and you will shoot through the gate taking some damage.
I apologize for the checkers comment but I assumed you were at the inner winch already. You had to do something you shouldn't have done or been the victim of a very rare bug to get into this situation. |
Sat Jan 12, 2002 11:14 pm |
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bigkabuto
High Emperor


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Posts: 591
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hmm..yez..well what i'm gonna do now is load one of my older savegame and have a look if it's open..i know for sure..that it was closed when i saw that area for the first time...very weird..
look at thescreen ...it wont help much, oh well...
http://forum.gamers.nl/attachment.php?s=17247eee216dfeefeb899781eb8f3101&postid=416684 |
Sat Jan 12, 2002 11:17 pm |
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Yeah if it doesn't open the winch is just broken.
No big deal it's a known bug. Use the cheat if your earlier saved game doesn't work. It won't hurt you in any way. |
Sat Jan 12, 2002 11:26 pm |
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